Is The Cause truly lost?

JohnnyReb

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From another thread:
The confederacy is dead. There is no "South", only the south. The "We" you speak for only exists inside your own delusion. It is 2002 not 1861, learn to accept it.

Is the Cause truly lost?

But in Eastern Europe, the former Soviet Union, and Quebec, secession is associated with freedom, democracy, and the aspirations of the oppressed. --Thomas H. Naylor, The Boston Globe July 20, 98. Latvia did it; Scotland?s doing it: Why not Vermont?

Walter Williams - It's time to part company

Let's Ditch Dixie: The case for Northern secession.

Our hope for ultimate success is that this is indeed a new century, not the old 19th or 20th century period that did favor the growth of empires and larger government. We live in a time of decentralization, secession, regional autonomy and independence movements that are sweeping the globe. The 19th and 20th centuries were the heyday of larger and larger nations, the age of empires and big government. It was the time of socialist experiments in communism, national socialism and federalism.

Frankly, the Confederacy and our bold attempt at lawful, constitutional secession was going against the tide of history during the 19th century. My question for each of you here today, what are the real dinosaurs now during the early years of the 21st century? Is it the movements toward regional autonomy and outright independence in the United Kingdom, the old Soviet Union, the old Eastern Block nations? Is it Bermuda, Northern Italy, Quebec, the Isle of Man and most recently the British Virgin Islands? How about the regional independence movements in the Philippines, Taiwan and Indonesia? Finally what about our celebration of Southern pride, heritage and Southern Rights down here in Dixie now taking the first steps toward independence once again? Are we the real dinosaurs in the world today?

Washington's attempts to destroy our history, prohibit our symbols and reeducate our children fails everyday when someone raises the Confederate Battle Flag in their yard or puts it on their truck. It fails when a Southern student wears a Confederate Flag to school and bravely questions their right to outlaw our history. The enemies of Dixie, of Southern pride and of limited constitutional government will never win this war of cultural genocide against us as long as we stand and fight together.

Ten years ago, you could have packed all the people of Dixie that wanted a resurrected Southern Republic appropriately into a small mobile home. This was the Southern Independence movement in its entirety. We didn?t have enough supporters to fill out both teams in a decent baseball game.

Today we could fill a baseball stadium with enough advance notice and time. We had 10,000 in Columbia, 5,000 in Montgomery and this is only the tip of the growing, mushrooming Confederate iceberg.

Is the Cause lost? Not yet.

What is the Cause? First, a return to limited government and private property rights. Failing this a parting of company.

John




 

yllus

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Hah!

Speaking as someone who's grown up studying separatism in Quebec and whose family lived in Montreal for a few years, I can tell you that the only people who still believe in the cause are a minority of Quebec teenagers who've been spoon-fed hatred and mistrust of English-speaking America. Show me any believer of Quebec separatism and in twenty minutes flat I'll have reduced him down to his base reason for hating Canada: "Cause when I was in Halifax/Toronto/Edmonton/Vancouver, this English-speaking guy was mean to me." Yeah buddy, you're making me tear up here.

Irony #1: Asking most separatists, "Do you really think Quebec can make it on its own as a country? It barely gets by as a province." yields "Oh we'll join America." Yeah, join the country least known to absorb new languages and cultures without a trace.
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Irony #2: In President Clinton's one and only visit to Quebec, he sternly lectured the province and its premier about strength as a whole, and against dividing up through racial or language-based lines. What good can come of that? It seems like all it's good for is starting off a new country based on hatred of people different than themselves. If your culture simply can't stand on its own behalf, that's your own damn fault and unavoidable to boot.
 

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<< Frankly, the Confederacy and our bold attempt at lawful, constitutional secession was going against the tide of history during the 19th century. >>


Actually, I think it was the South's continued usage/support of slavery at a time when our enlightened/educated government recognized the inappropriateness of it.


<< Finally what about our celebration of Southern pride, heritage and Southern Rights down here in Dixie now taking the first steps toward independence once again? >>


America became one of the leading nations of the world due to the support and cooperation of all the population. Split us into 'North US' and 'South US' and we'll become the laughing stock of the other 3rd world countries.


<< Are we the real dinosaurs in the world today? >>


From your post, I would have to agree with you here.


<< Ten years ago, you could have packed all the people of Dixie that wanted a resurrected Southern Republic appropriately into a small mobile home. >>


And today, most of them still live in small mobile homes. :)


<< What is the Cause? First, a return to limited government and private property rights. Failing this a parting of company. >>


While I support limited government, I don't think flying a Confederate flag is going to bring it about. There is too much of a negative connotation brought about by the civil war and the more recent activities of the KKK and other militant white supremacist groups. If you want to see real support for a limited government initiative I think you need to band together under a different flag or you will never be taken seriously by the general population.

Boone