Question Is the Asus CH7 with PCIe 4.0 NVMe SSD's in Raid-0 using the 2501 AGESA ABB 1.0.0.2 Bios Possible with Ryzen 3000 ?

[Z15CAM]

Considering AMD/ASUS killed PCIe 4.0 support for their X470 Mainboards with their AGESA ABB 1003 BIOS release.

Got a CH7 with the AGESA ABB 1002 BIOS running either a R5 2600X or R7 3700X with GEN 3 NVMe PCIe SSD's - JUST can't afford 2 NVMe GEN 4.0 's Sticks and rather afraid to update the BIOS if I want to RAID-0 GEN 4 NVMe's or even whether it's worth it.

Biggest question for me is: Do I stick with this AGASSE ABB 1002 Bios hoping to run RAID-0 NVMe GEN4 or upgrade the BIOS and loose PCIe GEN 4.0 support. Consider again the 2 NVMe M2 Slots on the ASUS CH7 MB are NOT Sata Chipset the're CPU PCIe Lanes.

I Question - WHY I should want to UpDate the BIOS over the ABB 1002 on the ASUS CH7 X470 MB if I'm going to loose PCIe GEN 4.0.

Both the ASUS CH8 and PCIe 4.0 NVMe SSD's are very expensive !

I believe you Geek's get my PIC ;o)

 

[VirtualLarry]

I say, why half-ass it? If you want a REAL PCI-E 4.0 x4 NVMe RAID-0 setup, then pay for it, because the prior chipsets aren't actually PCI-E 4.0 certified. And to run NVMe RAID, that means that you need to be bifurcating the PCI-E x16 GPU slot (like in my B450-F ROG STRIX Gaming ATX mobo), to get the extra PCI-E x4 slot for the secondary NVMe socket for full-speed RAID-0 (like mine has, only PCI-E 3.0 only).

I wouldn't stick to ComboPI 1.0.0.2-whatever for Ryzen 3000-series CPUs, too buggy. Waiting for 1.0.0.4 for mine, actually, supposed to be the most bug-fixed, but I wonder if that's X570-only, too.

Btw, you DO have a Ryzen 3000-series CPU, right? You know that you won't get PCI-E 4.0 support, with or without BIOS support, without it, right?

That said, if you really NEED the performance of RAID-0 NVMe, with PCI-E 4.0 x4, then perhaps you're on the wrong platform, and should go TRX40 or TRX80 and a TR4.

 

[Z15CAM]

Thanks Larry: Was expecting you to blast my superlative expectations ;o)

Guess I will just upgrade to the latest ASUS CH7 X470 Bios before I mount this 3700X - Hey, I got 4 x's 8 Samsung B-Die TForce dimms comfortably running at 14CL @ 3200MHz with this 2600X kinda expect 15 CL 3600Mhz @ 1.4v with them 4 sticks and perhaps 1.35v on the 3700X CPU. Wish me luck.

Kinda weird how you and I tend to fall into being suckers for the same PC hardware. I still have my P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3 with an i7 2700K running at 4.8 GHz's 24/7 after some 10 years - What a Darling!

What really gets me is that both Wendell @ L1T and Tiny Tom @ OC3D both say this PCIe NVMe GEN 4 SSD RAID scenario is possible with the CH7 Hero MB because both M2 slots are PCIe and not SATA.

Not saying the X570 MB has heavier and better insulated PCIe tracings in the PCB and cost twice as much.

So the ASUS 1003 AGESA Bios killed PCIe GEN 4 support for their MB's under X570 protecting weaker PCB's doesn't mean a Hacker can't deliver a Pass Through Bios supporting PCI 4.0 + containing updated ASUS Bios features for the CH7 yet allow PCIe Gen 4.0 support.

I'm somewhat of a BIOS hacker from way back when, I'm sure our Russian Geeks are working on it right now ;o)

 

[Z15CAM]

The BIG question is when replacing a Ryzen 2600X with a 3700X on a an ASUS CH7 Hero with an updated Bios and loose Gen 4 PCIe or just keep the older Bios that supports GEN 4 PCIe ?

I really don't think I should not be able to hit CL16 @ 3600MHz with 32GB 4X8 Samsung B-Die Dims at 1.375 to 1.4v's keeping the clock ratio 1:1. I'm doing 3200 MHz at CL14 right now with a 2600X @ full clock at all cores on a Bridge Card Table.

Really would like my Bridge Card Table free to play cards and mount this C7H with the 3700X into a tower ;o)

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Both Tiny Tom @ OC3D and Steve @ Gamers Nexus say the CH7 Hero X470 MB will do GEN 4 on both M2 NVMe PCIe slots without degradation using a Ryzen 3000 CPU. They NEVER specified the BIOS version ? I'm really NOT willing to abort the PCIe GEN 4 feature when I plugin this 3700X as long as I can run 32 GB's of ram at 3200mhz 14CL or 3600mhz 16CL at 1.4v 4X8 with this outdated 2501-AMD AGESA Combo-AM4 1.0.0.2 BIOS firmware or having to update the BIOS to stabilize ram at this speed sacrificing PCIe GEN 4 support. Then who knows what other BIOS features will not work after changing CPU's ?

Think I will set this 1.0.0.2 BIOS to default, change out the CPU, reboot and see what happens.

I do not have any PCIe 4 NVMe SSD devises to TEST or will I ever need one !

 

[DrMrLordX]

You don't want old AGESA versions with Matisse. Boost performance is lower.

1.0.0.2 is actually a pre-relase AGESA I think, which makes it particularly undesirable.