Is the Anthem a racist song????

NAC4EV

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https://www.pri.org/stories/2016-08-30/historians-disagree-whether-star-spangled-banner-racist

Was Francis Scott Key happy to see former slaves, who had joined the British as part of their Colonial Marines, get slaughtered and killed as the British attempted to take Baltimore.”
https://www.theroot.com/star-spangled-bigotry-the-hidden-racist-history-of-the-1790855893

And where is that band who so vauntingly swore,
That the havoc of war and the battle’s confusion
A home and a Country should leave us no more?
Their blood has wash’d out their foul footstep’s pollution.
No refuge could save the hireling and slave
From the terror of flight or the gloom of the grave,
And the star-spangled banner in triumph doth wave
O’er the land of the free and the home of the brave.

“The entire song sort of leads up to this point, where he’s essentially saying to these terrible, ungrateful, black people, that this is the consequence of standing up against the United States.”
“So it’s clearly racist; it’s clearly pro-slavery, but it’s pretty much in line with the kind of man that Francis Scott Key was.” He was at one point a slave owner.

What is your opinion???
 
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Yes, anyone who can read and comprehend the horrors of slavery know that part of that song was about slavery and punishing those slaves who dared to try for a free life. It's a stupid, stupid song to have as an anthem for anything short of the klan.
 
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MajinCry

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The fuck is TheRoot?

And yeah, the anthem is clearly racist in a "Gosh darned darkies tryna get freedom. We won, they lost, and now we're free to enslave them. Suck it up, losers." sort of way
 

NAC4EV

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where is this inferred or even quoted in the entire article?

You didn't read the entire article.

Key was saying that the blood of all the former slaves and “hirelings” on the battlefield will wash away the pollution of the British invaders.
 

PottedMeat

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You didn't read the entire article.

Key was saying that the blood of all the former slaves and “hirelings” on the battlefield will wash away the pollution of the British invaders.
where does the author of the article say historians are in conflict about the 'racist' status of the song? all it does is give the authors side and his supporting info.
 

IronWing

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My understanding of the lyrics is that Key was referring to British soldiers, both hirelings (who freely joined the British Army) and "slaves" who were conscripted. In the context of the War of 1812, this makes sense as one of the causes of the war was conscription of American sailors into the British navy and also because the British government was not yet officially abolitionist as slave ownership was still legal in the empire in 1812 though the buying and selling of slaves was banned in 1807 (nudge nudge wink wink).
 
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HomerJS

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When the Star Spangled Banner was chosen America the Beautiful was an alternate choice. Compare the 2 lyrics. Maybe time for a change?
 

MajinCry

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No, it's not a racist song.

Yes, to every lefty everything is racist except them.

Remember this, my dear?

You lefties just won't stop bringing up racism. You making everything racist IS racist.

-Taj & friends

Except I have never said anything like it. You have to lie when you try to put that racist shit on me.

https://forums.anandtech.com/thread...a-million-black-people.2519035/#post-39079589

I am the prophet of our times.
 

NAC4EV

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gotta ask you man, what's with the bolded font? Vision issues? Not trying to be snarky, genuinely curious, please tell me to piss off if I've overstepped.

Vision issues.
I wish everyone would do the same for me,
Many complain and sight some dumb-ass reason.

One thing for sure no one can say "it's harder to read when bold faced"
 
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IronWing

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Vision issues.
I wish everyone would do the same for me,
Many complain and sight some dumb-ass reason.

One thing for sure no one can say "it's harder to read when bold faced"
You can control the font size in your browser w/o needing to bold. You can also adjust the CSS for your browser to auto-bold normal text so only you see the bolding.
 

WHAMPOM

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Part of the British forces were mercenaries and conscripts, hirelings and slaves by the hyperbola of the times. I would be more specific, but you can do your own damn research.
 

NAC4EV

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You can also adjust the CSS for your browser to auto-bold normal text so only you see the bolding.

Thanks I have done most of those things.
I can't get/find the auto-bold normal text in Win 7
 

Puffnstuff

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No I don't think that this song is racist nor do I think it should be changed. Perhaps the real issue is that it pays homage to God as empowering American's to overcome their aggressors saving the country.
 

pmv

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That's cute and matches exactly what I said.
1. It's not racist
2. Every lefty thinks everything is racist except them.

1. It seems somewhat racist to me. The reference to slaves presumably does mean black people held as such, given the context that (in his first drafts of the Declaration of Independence) Jefferson simultaneously tried to blame the British for the institution of slavery, _and_ complained about the British inciting slaves to revolt against the colonial rebels.

But almost every national anthem has dodgy verses, because they are mostly old, and most things were worse in the past - most countries seem to deal with it by pretending the dodgy bits don't exist, helped by the fact that nobody ever remembers more than one verse anyway, before lapsing into dum-dee-dum-dee-dum-something-something.

2. Every rightist thinks nothing is racist unless it's directed at them.
 
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