Is the 760K and the A10 6800K the exact same CPU?

[john5220]

Is it the exact same chip but with just the GPU disabled?

I have a friend with one of these strange FM2 sockets mainboard. He has a dual core APU but wanted to upgrade to a CPU and get a dedicated card a GTX 970 actually.

So I checked benchmarks but can't find anything regarding the 760K all I can find is A10 6800K

I think I remember seeing one benhmark on on a German site with the A10 pulling far ahead in FPS

I wonder how those 760K actually compare to chips like the FX4300 etc? I heard the 760K automatically over clocks to 4.1 GHZ when gaming is this true?

 

[john5220]

Also how does turbo core work in that? if it over clocks to 4.1 GHZ then I guess there would be no point in manually overclocking it to 4.1 right?

my friend also has a cheap gigabyte mainboard so I do not know how much it can OC this athlon.

http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=5012#ov

that is his board. Should I recommend him get the 760k with after market cooler and over clock? but then if so how much would this board even OC at a sustained rate without a drastic reduction in its lifespan?

 

[Enigmoid]

Put briefly: a 970 is too much for a FM2+ CPU.

Yes, AMD only has one physical die per family. A10-6800k and the 760k are the same physical chip (richland). The 760k has the igp deactivated.

 

[jacktesterson]

CPU performance is almost the same.

It will be a bottleneck in some games (Multiplayer) but should be OK for most games and single player - but thats not a balanced setup. Most I'd go with that CPU is like a 7850/7870 level GPU.

 

[NTMBK]

I wouldn't recommend overclocking on that board. The VRM circuitry does not seem very substantial, and it has no heatsinks on the VRMs.

Your friend may also want to consider the Athlon 860k. It's the Steamroller version.

 

[john5220]

Does the 860K give any sort of advantage in multi player gaming benchmarks?

 

[NTMBK]

Does the 860K give any sort of advantage in multi player gaming benchmarks?

It does quite a lot better than the 760k in workloads with >2 threads. Steamroller has dual decoders per module, so it has less penalty for putting two threads on a module. Should help with e.g. BF4.

 

[john5220]

WOW so the 860K will be significantly better in multi threaded games like battlefield 4 and dayz then?

i didn't know it was that much better than 760K

 

[crashtech]

There's a thread about the 860K here on the CPU forum.

 

[Loser Gamer]

A 970 is not too much for that cpu. It might run faster on a faster cpu but that doesn't mean you won't see gains from the 970 over a lesser GPU.

People like to set boundaries over what GPU your cpu deserves which is based on nothing factual but just social walls put up by the community.

There is no definition of "too much" for that cpu concerning GPU because the equation is not complete.

 

[john5220]

Hey guys amazon cannot cancel his order on the 760k it has reached to far and since we both live in the Caribbean it makes no sense to send it back too much hassell and money in shipping.

So since he got it for $70 on a sale on amazon I told him he could just keep it and wait until next year Christmas or maybe 2016 for the 960K Excavator.

Hopefully excavator would have an even better CPU upgrade over steam roller.

I wonder how long AMD intends to continue the FM2+ socket though because they said excavator would be their last family.

 

[jacktesterson]

CPU performance is almost the same.

It will be a bottleneck in some games (Multiplayer) but should be OK for most games and single player - but thats not a balanced setup. Most I'd go with that CPU is like a 7850/7870 level GPU.

A 970 is not too much for that cpu. It might run faster on a faster cpu but that doesn't mean you won't see gains from the 970 over a lesser GPU.

People like to set boundaries over what GPU your cpu deserves which is based on nothing factual but just social walls put up by the community.

There is no definition of "too much" for that cpu concerning GPU because the equation is not complete.

I think my post is pretty accurate. Should be fine for most titles but will be a bottleneck in some games.

This doesn't mean the game will be unplayable - but we all know that the FM2+ CPU's are generally quite weak compared to Intel offerings. The G3258 Dual Core can hang with these chips and often beat them in gaming, for example.

I think the point here is that FM2+ is not an ideal for high end GPU's but will still work.

 

[NTMBK]

Hey guys amazon cannot cancel his order on the 760k it has reached to far and since we both live in the Caribbean it makes no sense to send it back too much hassell and money in shipping.

So since he got it for $70 on a sale on amazon I told him he could just keep it and wait until next year Christmas or maybe 2016 for the 960K Excavator.

Hopefully excavator would have an even better CPU upgrade over steam roller.

I wonder how long AMD intends to continue the FM2+ socket though because they said excavator would be their last family.

The 760 should be a fine CPU for him, and $70 is a great bargain. Let us know how it works out for him!

 

[john5220]

Sure thing man and from what I seen on youtube the 760K runs Battlefield 4 really lovely in multi player with Mantle and Dice's post beta patch. AMD CPU performance with that combination really did shoot up in BF4.

So will be sure to let you guys know how it performs in 64 player maps, BF4 loves to favor 4 threads even if its weak it give big performance just for having 4 vs 2 for some reason.

 

[VirtualLarry]

Sure thing man and from what I seen on youtube the 760K runs Battlefield 4 really lovely in multi player with Mantle and Dice's post beta patch. AMD CPU performance with that combination really did shoot up in BF4.

Pity that you won't be able to use Mantle with a GTX970.

 

[crashtech]

Then again the Nvidia GPUs seem to do OK with lesser CPUs and have less need for an API like Mantle.