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Is the 5800 Ultra worth buying for under 250$?

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eno

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Has there been improvements to the performance or is it still not worth buying?? I might be able to buy one for cheap and noise is not a factor. I have a 9700pro on my other computer and am seeing the driver issues with Counter Strike. I would be buying the card for my other s ystem which is only a 4x AGP Soyo(kt266). if I could buy it new for around 200$ is it worth it?? Isn't new drivers that have extremly improved its performance.
 
The drivers have improved its performance quite a bit. In situations where bandwidth is not a problem it is around the speed of a 9700 pro, but in bandwidth critical situations it will fall behind. $200 for one isn't a bad deal, but I wouldn't pay a whole lot more than that since you can get a fx5900 for $250.
 
it's a pretty good deal.. but as modedepe said.. you could get a 5900 for $50 more... which I would go for that...
 
For 200 dollars it might be worth it. But for 46 dollars more, you can get the 5900 with the 256-bit mem architecture.
So if you mowed a couple of lawns or something like that, you would have the extra cash to do it.

Recommend the 5900 over the 5800. The price is steadily dropping. The 5800 is actually selling for more cash than the 5900 right now. Your choice.
 
Why, yes it is.....
LINKY

And besides BFG, he said he was having driver issues with counterstrike. And I believe he was asking about the 5800 not 9800.
I think you mixed up the 5 and the 9 there.. Just wanted to point that out for ya.. 🙂
 
regardless, i think it all things considered it would be a frivolous upgrade. try to fix the driver problem before jumping into a new card
 
I'd stay with the 9700

there is a command line for opengl to edit with the ati cards, and the 16bit will be fixed by the 3.8s (catalyst maker has a thread).

rogo
 
go for it, the gf fx 5800 ultra is a fast card indeed, and 200 bucks is good deal. Seems 9700s are also around that pricerange, but not the pros. and the fx5800 ultra should be faster then the non pros, so go for it.
 
Pricewatch has 9800 NP cards listed for less than $200.
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He has a 9700Pro, why would he "upgrade" to a 9800np,BFG? Especially since the reason he wants to change is to escape ATI drivers.


I agree with the rest, you'd be better off to spend $50 more and get a 5900nu. The 5800u will offer comparable performance to your 9700p, just noisier.

 
better ask him how long he plans on keeping the card, if he plans on playing new game titles with dx9 and if he likes af and aa.

rogo
 
Now Rogo, you know perfectly well a 5800 can run 4X8X on any games just fine. Your bias is showing.

As far as the DX 9 goes, I still haven't seen anyone say they can tell the difference in image quality between PS 1.4 and PS 2.0, or that they know of any games that force you to use 2.0.

So let's not jump to judgement on issues that might not matter.
 
Originally posted by: Rollo
I still haven't seen anyone say they can tell the difference in image quality between PS 1.4 and PS 2.0
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so you think atis 1.4 is good enough eh? but then what does that have to do with anything anyway?
 
so you think atis 1.4 is good enough eh? but then what does that have to do with anything anyway?
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Maybe nothing, maybe everything.
Like I said, I'm looking for info here, not giving it.

http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview.cfm?catid=31&threadid=1134486
All I can say is in SWG I am forcing an override to use PS 2.0 instead of 1.4\1.1 and there is indeed a difference in performance. ~5-10% slower for PS2.0. Now I am not sure what exactly what or how the game is using PS2.0. Because by all indications the game looks exactly the same using any of the PS versions. 1.4\1.1 yield the exact same performance but PS2.0 is a bit slower. But the picture is no different between the two.
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Apparently some games allow the use of different versions of PS, either 1.4 or 2.0. I've seen benchmarks showing the 5900 as fast as the 9800 at PS 1.4. If the image quality is no different between 1.4 and 2.0, there wouldn't be any significant reason to use one over the other, if they both yield the same result?

I.E. Saying "ATI is 50% faster at PS 2.0!" means a LOT less if there's no advantage to using PS 2.0, IMO anyway.


 
Yep I'm biased, I like gamma corrected FSAA and not the jagged crap Nvidia is running.

I also like 128tap less adaptive better performing AF on my 9800-my borrowed 5900nonu looks quite jaggy with less texture depth when max settings are enabled on both.

rogo
 
I also like 128tap less adaptive better performing AF on my 9800-my borrowed 5900nonu looks quite jaggy with less texture depth when max settings are enabled on both.
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The only way you'd really notice the difference is if you stopped and looked. It's total ATI fanboy BS to complain about the "horrible jagginess" of nV3Xs.
A. If you run 12X10 and put enough polys in the scene, it will barely be jagged WITHOUT AA.
B. Even at 10X7, 4X AA on a nV3X is very smooth. I used to have to stop and look for jags with my 5800, I for sure didn't notice them in play

People like you just need to feel they've made better choices than others for reasons I can't fathom. You point out miniscule differences in products as "proof" of your better choice, when in real world use the differences aren't worth the time to type about. You're no different than a Camaro owner telling a Mustang owner "that extra 25hp comes in handy" when they'll both spin the tires.
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Originally posted by: Rollo
I've seen benchmarks showing the 5900 as fast as the 9800 at PS 1.4. If the image quality is no different between 1.4 and 2.0
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where? last i knew nvidia didn't even bother supporting ps1.4.
 
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