Is Texas Coming Un Done?

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Three Cases you might not expect to see in Texas.



Army soldier indicted on murder charge in shooting of armed protester in Texas last year

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Army soldier indicted on murder charge in shooting of armed protester in Texas last year.

Recall petition begins against Cowboys for Trump founder


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A political committee has begun circulating a petition to recall Cowboys or Trump founder Couy Griffin from public office as a commissioner in Otero County. The Committee to Recall Couy Griffin said Thursday in a news release that it has begun collecting signatures in efforts to scheduled a recall election.

Abbott wants to build a border wall. South Texas landowners are divided over whether they want it.


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Because the cliffs faced west, Vargas said, they offered a view of a "perfect sunset."
 

MrSquished

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Texas will be fine. I just wish they'd follow through and actually secede. Now that would be a Texas I can get behind.
 
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Moonbeam

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I was hoping for to buy some cheap land after some deadly strain of Covid kills off the unvaccinated.
 

Roger Wilco

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Texas will be fine. I just wish they'd follow through and actually secede. Now that would be a Texas I can get behind.

Texas is getting pretty blue though...all those dirty libruls chasing cheap land for their yoga dungeons and whatnot.
 

iRONic

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Three Cases you might not expect to see in Texas.

Recall petition begins against Cowboys for Trump founder

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Houston Chronicle|3 hours ago
A political committee has begun circulating a petition to recall Cowboys or Trump founder Couy Griffin from public office as a commissioner in Otero County. The Committee to Recall Couy Griffin said Thursday in a news release that it has begun collecting signatures in efforts to scheduled a recall election.
Sure he's a deplorable douche but he's from New Mexico.

SANTA FE, New Mexico — An effort to recall the founder of Cowboys for Trump from his public office as a county commissioner can move forward under an order of the New Mexico state Supreme Court.
 

MrSquished

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Texas is getting pretty blue though...all those dirty libruls chasing cheap land for their yoga dungeons and whatnot.
Texas will never let enough urban minorities vote to actually go blue. Time to cut the cancerous tumor off the country. Along with the deep south.
 

Bitek

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Texas is pretty cool if it weren't for so many dumbfk republicans running/ruining the state.

I'd prefer moderation
 
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Texas is pretty cool if it weren't for so many dumbfk republicans running/ruining the state.

I'd prefer moderation

Yeah, I mean - they are running EVERYTHING into the ground... which is why democrats are flocking to the state. Right ? ;)


lol you guys are at peak levels of stupidity.
 

Bitek

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Yeah, I mean - they are running EVERYTHING into the ground... which is why democrats are flocking to the state. Right ? ;)


lol you guys are at peak levels of stupidity.

Yes, Texas is a model of optimized government. How could it possibly be improved?? :rolleyes:
 

Commodus

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Yeah, I mean - they are running EVERYTHING into the ground... which is why democrats are flocking to the state. Right ? ;)


lol you guys are at peak levels of stupidity.

The Texan government isn't running everything into the ground, but that's sometimes in spite of state leaders' efforts, not because of them (see: energy policy).

The influx is largely prompted by lower real estate costs and an abundance of major (though usually secondary) offices for big companies, especially in tech. It's certainly not for the socially regressive ideology, oil industry bribery, voter suppression efforts or the pandemic-era "let's kill grandma so you can go to the movies" health strategy.

The events the OP cited aren't really that indicative of this change. However, Republicans really are setting themselves up for a fall. Their strategy revolves so heavily around assumptions about "safe" states and districts (including those unfairly rigged that way) that they have no fallback; no willingness to modernize policy, no major states they can flip in their favor. If Texas turns blue, the GOP has... well, nothing. They're virtually guaranteed to lose that federal election and could easily lose more if that first result is indicative of a permanent demographic shift.
 

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The Texan government isn't running everything into the ground, but that's sometimes in spite of state leaders' efforts, not because of them (see: energy policy).

The influx is largely prompted by lower real estate costs and an abundance of major (though usually secondary) offices for big companies, especially in tech. It's certainly not for the socially regressive ideology, oil industry bribery, voter suppression efforts or the pandemic-era "let's kill grandma so you can go to the movies" health strategy.

The events the OP cited aren't really that indicative of this change. However, Republicans really are setting themselves up for a fall. Their strategy revolves so heavily around assumptions about "safe" states and districts (including those unfairly rigged that way) that they have no fallback; no willingness to modernize policy, no major states they can flip in their favor. If Texas turns blue, the GOP has... well, nothing. They're virtually guaranteed to lose that federal election and could easily lose more if that first result is indicative of a permanent demographic shift.
Pretty much this. If Texas becomes the next Virginia or Colorado, the republican party is locked out of the presidency for quite a while. They're not out of power as they'll have a stranglehold on the house and senate, but their ability to execute (policy at least; they can still execute people with reckless abandon) will be hobbled.
 

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Pretty much this. If Texas becomes the next Virginia or Colorado, the republican party is locked out of the presidency for quite a while. They're not out of power as they'll have a stranglehold on the house and senate, but their ability to execute (policy at least; they can still execute people with reckless abandon) will be hobbled.

Step 1: Do this, just like democrats did a weaker version of when they started losing the solid south after nearly 170 years.


Step 2: Appoint Electors
 

Bitek

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Texas:

No state income tax, but very high property taxes (amongst highest in nation) and sales taxes are very high.

Terrible vaccination program, and covid rates are now increasing (RT >1). Considering 99.5% of all covid deaths are from unvaccinated people, it's literally govt incompetence killing it's citizens.

For all that money people are paying, you get a pretty terrible govt that barely ever shows up for work.

We could go on at length how terrible Texas has been with natural disasters.

Cheap land, but poorly run, and fairly expensive in the long run. Retire somewhere else.

Think how prosperous Texas could be if it weren't run by baffoons.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jemima...last-6-months-were-unvaccinated-data-suggests
 

trenchfoot

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It seems to me what they've got in Texas is their own little fascist state within a democratically run nation that's being threatened by a shift in demographics. So too in other Repub controlled states that find themselves under threat of turning blue.

The more ominous the threat is to their control the more fascist their responses are to that threat. Voting rights are the first things to go followed by whatever else they need to eviscerate out of Our Constitution to make that happen.

How ironic it is that the freedoms we enjoy as a democracy are being used to deny us the most cherished freedom we have: self determination through free and fair elections.
 
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Meh been hating Texas will be blue soon for about 30 years.

Lefties that stereotype and are more racist than southern rednecks: "If we just get some more of dem Mexicans in there, it will turn blue! "

Little do they know that even black and brown people are capable of individual thought. The horrors!
 
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Lefties that stereotype and are more racist than southern rednecks: "If we just get some more of dem Mexicans in there, it will turn blue! "

Little do they know that even black and brown people are capable of individual thought. The horrors!

WTF are you thinking man? WTF?
Now hidden in the vaguely racist rant hang in there I’ll explain...
Your text implies I’m/We aren’t racist because look at what YOU do. Don’t take other people inventory like that.

Back to the smart point which we appear to agree on. Mexican people appear to be more conservative than many folks believe and the ones that vote D only do so because they have to, kind of like Union Guys. Majority want to vote conservative but they know that Republican policies typically are not union friendly so they begrudgingly vote D.
Same with PR, people I have worked with from PR definitely lean conservative on social issues. Many are very hard line about immigration too.
So yes there are a bunch of brown people who vote R, there are black people who vote R.
I still don’t get how you extracted that from what I said.


Edit: apologies I just noticed auto correct changed hearing to hating. I’m still confused as to what the purpose of your reply was.
 
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WTF are you thinking man? WTF?
Now hidden in the vaguely racist rant hang in there I’ll explain...
Your text implies I’m/We aren’t racist because look at what YOU do. Don’t take other people inventory like that.

Back to the smart point which we appear to agree on. Mexican people appear to be more conservative than many folks believe and the ones that vote D only do so because they have to, kind of like Union Guys. Majority want to vote conservative but they know that Republican policies typically are not union friendly so they begrudgingly vote D.
Same with PR, people I have worked with from PR definitely lean conservative on social issues. Many are very hard line about immigration too.
So yes there are a bunch of brown people who vote R, there are black people who vote R.
I still don’t get how you extracted that from what I said.


Edit: apologies I just noticed auto correct changed hearing to hating. I’m still confused as to what the purpose of your reply was.

His purpose is to scream hysterically into a mirror, it's how he processes what a crappy person he is.
 

kage69

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I can see how many could think that, what with the sheer level of ineptitude on the part of Texan leaders and government.

I'm not sure why trumptards and their ilk are scoffing at the notion though. Someone needs to tell them ignoring the whole people freezing to death but losing their minds over CRT fever dreams makes them the assholes here, not the people wondering why such a huge prosperous state likes to mimic "shithole countries" so much.
 

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The endless appetite of people who have been made to feel worthless is to join some group that has as a characteristic that if you are a member that membership automatically makes you great. The cultural conditions in Texas conspired favorably to create the illusion that if you are a Texan it automatically makes you great. Unfortunately, in the case of the so called Texas mentality, the things supposedly confer greatness as part of that identity actually make people mentally unhealthy. The Hollywood augmented notion of the noble, silent suffering cowboy is one of them.

What Texas needs is a huge dose of psychotherapy.
 

Zorba

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I can see how many could think that, what with the sheer level of ineptitude on the part of Texan leaders and government.

I'm not sure why trumptards and their ilk are scoffing at the notion though. Someone needs to tell them ignoring the whole people freezing to death but losing their minds over CRT fever dreams makes them the assholes here, not the people wondering why such a huge prosperous state likes to mimic "shithole countries" so much.
It's consistent. They hate people, especially poor people. They don't care if they freeze, or if hundreds of years of discrimination laws made people poor.

But remember if you mention that redlining hurt black people, you're the real racist.