Originally posted by: hanoverphist
Originally posted by: kami333
Originally posted by: hanoverphist
Originally posted by: kami333
Originally posted by: hanoverphist
Originally posted by: mariok2006
My friend just got a ticket for doing 85 in a 70 this weekend for being forced to pass on the right because d!ckheads are talking on their cellphone in the left lane.
that has got to be one of the dumbest statements ive ever read. your friend was FORCED to pass on the right because someone else was doing the speed limit. they call it a limit because its how fast they LIMIT you to driving.
is that person on the cell phone supposed to speed up over the speed limit because your friend wants to go illegally faster? no one forced your friend to do 15 over, that was his/her own personal choice and they are going to pay the price for it. cant do the time, dont do the crime.
No, they are supposed to pull to the right lane. Most states have some variation of the "use left lane only for passing" law, too bad it is almost never enforced and most drivers are unaware of it. Depending on the state, even if the car coming from behind is speeding, you have a legal obligation to pull to the right lane.
when i was in traffic school (yes, for a speeding ticket camera, 54 in a 40, major intersection that has 6 lanes) the retired judge told us that speeding was a necessary evil that you may have to do to keep up with traffic so as to not make yourself a target for an accident. he also said that staying to the right for other people that were wanting to go faster wasnt necessarily a NEED to do thing. im not going to move just so some single asshat can go 15 mph faster than the rest of traffic when im already matching traffic flow at 10 or 12 over the limit. he said in that type of case you shouldnt have to move, because he was the hazard not you. i also told him i would give any cop that gave me a ticket for speeding to keep with the flow of traffic his name, and he said he was cool with that. ive taken traffic school 3 times in my 20 or so years of driving, and all three instructors said the same thing on the subject.
the keep right applies to highways out of town here as far as i can tell, i havent seen any specification otherwise. so no, unless that cell phone user is going slower than the flow, i dont think he should have to move for your asshat friend that wants to speed.
Dude, where do you live that has an non-interstate with a 70mph speed limit?
i dont recall saying that we had any 70mph roads at all. i dont recall ever stating any speed limit specifically beyond the one i got a ticket in, actually. in town, everything on divided highway is 55 or 65. used to go to 75 at about dysart to the west, but now thats pushed farther west due to expansion of towns out that way. i dont have much problem doing 5 over the limit along with a ton of people, but there are always asshats weaving in and out of traffic trying to go 85 or so. they are a hazard, and i giggle when i see one pushed into a wall because they couldnt keep it under control. i generally stay with traffic tho, im not much of a speeder/ risk taker since i had kids.
when i get out of town on the highways, however, i stay to the right unless im going to actually pass someone. which usually doesnt happen, most of the time theres a steady inrush of people trying to hit 100 and passing everything.
edit: just occurred to me that you meant that i was saying we could do 70 in town... we have many divided highways throughout the city, criss-crossing all over the place. it is easy to hit a divided highway and run for hours without seeing a stoplight without actually leaving the phx-metro area. speed limits never get above 65 tho.