Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
I understand and not to argue with you but....
but it isn't fair to Shin Etsu or forum members to think that Cooler Master is equal to Shin Etsu. Just as it wouldn't be fair if there was a compound that contained some Arctic Silver material and enthusiasts thought that it was the same as AS5 or Ceramique.
Actually if you read the label on the CoolerMaster products it out right states that there product is Shin Estu!
I honestly see no cover up as to whats obvious!!
With that said--
Have a nice day!!
This thread is:
"Is Shin Etsu as effective as Arctic Silver 5 for CPU cooling?"
So I think that it is fair to talk about specific Shin Etsu products and specific Arctic Silver products.
I don't think I should compare the effectiveness of Shin Etsu X23-7783D to AS3, or Alumina .. or counterfeit AS products. And we shouldn't say that CoolerMaster is exactly equivalent to Shin Etsu when we talk about Shin Etsu vs AS5.
This is a bit too much discussion on a minor point, but you seem to want to blur the distinction between a Coolermaster product that contains some amount of some product that originated from Shin Etsu......and a 100% pure Shin Etsu engineered compound directl from Shin Etsu.
I know the exact product when I order [ G751, X23-7762, or X23-7783D ] and that it has been Quality Controlled and certified by Shin Etsu.... and approved by AMD.
I just called Shin Etsu again, and Shin Etsu's engineers don't know which material is in CoolerMaster and they don't what CoolerMaster does to it in processing. CoolerMaster sources from a Japanese group.
So we don't know if this is an old , and lower performing , product.
We don't know what percentage of the compound is Shin Etsu, we don't know what other materials and chemicals are added.
We know CoolerMaster is not the same consistency as the three top performing, and AMD approved compounds from Shin Etsu: G751, X23-7762, or X23-7783D.
AMD does not list CoolerMaster as an approved compound.
AMD buys the same Shin Etsu products that I make available. And we both buy directly from Shin Etsu.
Maybe this explanation will help:
I bought an Iced Tea. The label said Green Tea with Honey.
Well, the drink did have some honey in it, but then I read the fine print list of ingredients. Iit had a lot more of High Fructose Corn Syrup and not very much honey. But technically it did have some honey.
So if I was thinking about health benefits of Honey or health concerns being debated about High Fructose Corn Syrup...did that Green tea with Honey label really tell me what was in the drink?
That is the distinction I'm trying to make about CoolerMaster, I'm sure it contains some Shin Etsu material. But there is no fine print that say it contains 100% Shin Etsu G765, or 15% Shin Etsu product ?, and 50% something else and 35% of another chemical or oil. If CoolerMaster will supply a statement that says it is 100% or 80% or 30% of some Shin etsu product , then we will know if what it is.
I'm selling 100% pure Shin Etsu material direct from Shin Etsu.
You can tell which particular material it is...and that tells us something about particle size and consistency...which helps us to decide if that compound might work for a given application.