is SATA even worth it?

[TechBoyJK]

building a rig for a friend, and he wants it for both gaming and video.

I was thinking sata for the large video files, but everything I read basically says the drives are essentially the same, just a different bus, and that the drives cant even saturate ata133 let alone sata bus.

Should we just stick to PATA and save some skrilla?

 

[EyeMWing]

SATA is cheaper by a buck or two most of the time, all boards have it these days, why not?

 

[tfinch2]

Originally posted by: EyeMWing
SATA is cheaper by a buck or two most of the time, all boards have it these days, why not?

He might have meant he already has the IDE drives...

 

[rise]

lol, link to the thread your sig is from?

if he has pata you won't see any performance gain. i prefer sata because its neater.

 

[shoRunner]

SATA has nothing to do with performace, its just a different cable.

 

[lxskllr]

If you already have the drives stick with ide. If buying new get the sata, small cables are nice.

 

[eXx08]

SATA II is alot faster and it's on alot of the AMD boards. If yours has that I would get it if not and you already have a IDE drive stick with it. The only thing SATA is good for is more air flow in your case. May be cooler by mabey a degree or two. The IDE Ribbon cables stop airflow alot.

 

[PerfeK]

Speed is not the only important factor when purchasing drives. New SATA drives support staggered spin-up which reduces load on power supplies during boot up, NCQ support which GREATLY improves performance during heavy IO and future support on all motherboards far into the future.
New motherboards are coming with less and less IDE channels. Save yourself the trouble and go with SATA when buying new drives.

 

[Bartokomus]

SATA is the way to go, all things being equal. as someone said above SATA II is where the excitement really happens...

 

[Budman]

you'll have to pry my ide drive from my cold dead hands. 😉

 

[n7]

If it costs you extra, i'd forget using SATA.

I personally won't likely buy anymore IDE HDDs since i have too many in my case already & i like the small SATA cables, but that's the only reason.

 

[mechBgon]

What about that other interface? 😕 You know... high-performance command queueing, 15 drives per cable, cables up to 10 meters long, working hotswap capabilities, staggered spinup, ultra-low seek times... I heard they'll be out in late 1997 or so.

Oh wait, nm 😱

 

[BFG10K]

When I was doing my upgrades last night I did notice how fat PATA cables are compared to SATA and how much they get in the way of everything.

Future drive purchases from me will be SATA on that basis alone.

 

[n7]

Originally posted by: mechBgon
What about that other interface? 😕 You know... high-performance command queueing, 15 drives per cable, cables up to 10 meters long, working hotswap capabilities, staggered spinup, ultra-low seek times... I heard they'll be out in late 1997 or so.

Oh wait, nm 😱

Not all of us are rich 🙁

If you could donate one to me though...

 

[mechBgon]

Originally posted by: n7

Originally posted by: mechBgon
What about that other interface? 😕 You know... high-performance command queueing, 15 drives per cable, cables up to 10 meters long, working hotswap capabilities, staggered spinup, ultra-low seek times... I heard they'll be out in late 1997 or so.

Oh wait, nm 😱

Not all of us are rich 🙁

If you could donate one to me though...

FYI, I'm not rich by American standards. 🙂 My furniture consists of a card table and a cast-off office chair. I have no microwave, television, stereo, or 🙁 cat. I did get a mattress a while back, though. And I just got a used '95 Caravan with 160k miles to supplement my bicycle. By world standards, of course, this still equates to living like a king, so I appreciate what I've got.

Ok, anyway... do a price comparison between a Raptor and a Fujitsu MAU3036NP at ZZF and tell me which one you'd rather have, if you already had a SCSI controller/cable/terminator 😀 I'll take the two-seat Viper over the four-door Neon.

 

[Budman]

Originally posted by: mechBgon
FYI, I'm not rich by American standards. 🙂 My furniture consists of a card table and a cast-off office chair. I have no microwave, television, stereo, or 🙁 cat. I did get a mattress a while back, though. And I just got a used '95 Caravan with 160k miles to supplement my bicycle. By world standards, of course, this still equates to living like a king, so I appreciate what I've got.

Ok, anyway... do a price comparison between a Raptor and a Fujitsu MAU3036NP at ZZF and tell me which one you'd rather have, if you already had a SCSI controller/cable/terminator 😀 I'll take the two-seat Viper over the four-door Neon.

Wow we should start a fund rasing event.

Get mechBgon Furniture drive!!!!

Dude you need at least a couch and a decent TV. 🙂


About the cat..... What's the matter dont you like pussy?😛

 

[n7]

Originally posted by: mechBgon
FYI, I'm not rich by American standards. 🙂 My furniture consists of a card table and a cast-off office chair. I have no microwave, television, stereo, or 🙁 cat. I did get a mattress a while back, though. And I just got a used '95 Caravan with 160k miles to supplement my bicycle. By world standards, of course, this still equates to living like a king, so I appreciate what I've got.

Ok, anyway... do a price comparison between a Raptor and a Fujitsu MAU3036NP at ZZF and tell me which one you'd rather have, if you already had a SCSI controller/cable/terminator 😀 I'll take the two-seat Viper over the four-door Neon.

Wow that's cheap!

You've got me thinkin' now, & that's a bad thing for my VISA :Q

How much do the controller cards go for though?

The other problem is that i have no idea where i can find that HHD nervermind the controller card in Canada either...we never get the selection you have.
I guess one could check eGhay though.

 

[mechBgon]

Dude you need at least a couch and a decent TV. 🙂

Bah, I just need a cheapo TV tuner card 😀 I can pull the rear seats out of the Dodge Caravan, lug them up the stairs, and there's my couch, PLUS the gas economy will improve with ~100kg of seats removed. 🙂

mech's world before the office-chair upgrade


Errrr... back on-topic, I do have one each of Seagate 8MB-cache SATA and PATA drives, 250GB and 200GB respectively. They got their place in the grand scheme of things, and for lots of folks they're the right choice. If one of them weren't holding about 120GB of backup files down at the office I'd try to arrange a meaningful performance test. Sorry about my SCSI trolling, it just makes me :roll: when command queueing is getting the spotlight as if it were something new 😉

 

[n7]

mechBgon YGPM 😉

 

[mechBgon]

Originally posted by: n7
mechBgon YGPM 😉

YGPM back 😉


Another aspect of PATA is that the connectors are essentially unbreakable and they don't easily come unplugged either, if either of those factors matter. Everyone has good points, though.

 

[PerfeK]

Originally posted by: PerfeK
Speed is not the only important factor when purchasing drives. New SATA drives support staggered spin-up which reduces load on power supplies during boot up, NCQ support which GREATLY improves performance during heavy IO and future support on all motherboards far into the future.
New motherboards are coming with less and less IDE channels. Save yourself the trouble and go with SATA when buying new drives.

Quoting myself for truth.

 

[n7]

Originally posted by: PerfeK

Originally posted by: PerfeK
Speed is not the only important factor when purchasing drives. New SATA drives support staggered spin-up which reduces load on power supplies during boot up, NCQ support which GREATLY improves performance during heavy IO and future support on all motherboards far into the future.
New motherboards are coming with less and less IDE channels. Save yourself the trouble and go with SATA when buying new drives.

Quoting myself for truth.

Ban! You cannot do that :Q






j/k 🙂