Is sandy-bridge far more difficult to overclock than Core 2?

[exar333]

I remember how much time I spent on my A64 3200+ and DFI NF4 MB. That was a great rig, but those DFI boards were so finicky with voltages and speeds. It was MANY hours to get that finally stable, but was a lot of fun getting it there.

 

[tweakboy]

Core 2 was a break through in speed and power compared to P4 and Pentium D. Intel admitted it too.

after that it was i7 which is a generation change but not a significant break through in performance and power compared to P4 then Core 2 in 2006.

2009 brought us i7 but performance wise you hard to see a difference with certain things.

 

[aigomorla]

How much more difficult is it than C2D? I'm thinking of upgrading but if it is too difficult than I'll go with a non- "K" processor.

Here is the intel commercial

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GR5_X1CfUA

this is a real add from intel lol.

LOL..... u stole my favorate post!!!

The real one from intel direct.
http://getsmart.intel.com/uk/videos...clocking-so-easy-even-your-grandma-can-do-it/

its rediculously easy... almost too easy its going to end up killing this hobby we know as overclocking...

Its simple... and stupidly simple if u get a K processor.

All you do is set voltage to 1.325!
Then start RAMPING your multiplier....

Heat is easier to deal with a SB processor vs a C2D.... Gosh those things were furnaces especially the kentfields on the B3 stepping.

Thats it... u dont play with BCLK on Sandy's.
BCLK = FSB its not the same... but its acts like the same in overclocking.. well not really...

But thats the name they changed for FSB...

 

[masterbm]

Sandy bridge are stupidly easy for over clocking as long as it is k edition. I spent lot time on this q6600 getting it to run at 3.5 stable(my everyday machine). 2500 is my gaming rig and only used as such. Took my less then 1 min to overclock

 

[GnatGoSplat]

I understand the K processors are super easy to overclock by just increasing the multiplier, but how about the non-K processors? From what I've read, it seems like they are almost impossible to overclock. Seeing as how the majority of Sandy Bridge processors in Intel's lineup aren't K-processors, wouldn't it be safe to say that in general, Sandy Bridge is more difficult to overclock?

 

[Idontcare]

I understand the K processors are super easy to overclock by just increasing the multiplier, but how about the non-K processors? From what I've read, it seems like they are almost impossible to overclock. Seeing as how the majority of Sandy Bridge processors in Intel's lineup aren't K-processors, wouldn't it be safe to say that in general, Sandy Bridge is more difficult to overclock?

This is a self-made argument revolving around semantics.

You can say it but clearly it fails to capture and communicate the reality of the situation with Sandy Bridge - the K models exist for a reason and to ignore this distinction while crafting generalizations regarding overclocking is dishonest at best. So why would you craft it?

 

[GnatGoSplat]

This is a self-made argument revolving around semantics.

You can say it but clearly it fails to capture and communicate the reality of the situation with Sandy Bridge - the K models exist for a reason and to ignore this distinction while crafting generalizations regarding overclocking is dishonest at best. So why would you craft it?

Actually, it was more a question rather than a semantic argument since I really don't know for sure that non-K models are impossible to overclock. I've simply read that it is. As I'm unfamiliar with Sandy Bridge processors but am in the market to buy one soon. What isn't too clear, because as you mentioned, not every makes this distinction, is whether buying a non-K means a complete inability to overclock. Does it? Or are there exceptions?

 

[Majic 7]

Actually, it was more a question rather than a semantic argument since I really don't know for sure that non-K models are impossible to overclock. I've simply read that it is. As I'm unfamiliar with Sandy Bridge processors but am in the market to buy one soon. What isn't too clear, because as you mentioned, not every makes this distinction, is whether buying a non-K means a complete inability to overclock. Does it? Or are there exceptions?

They will overclock slightly by raising BLCK, like 100Mz or so, but essentially, no they don't. If you want to overclock get a K version and the right board. P67 or Z68.

 

[bryanW1995]

^ this

I just upgraded from a Q6600 setup to a 2600K setup.

The OC'ing aspects of the 2600K just couldn't be any easier. No really! That's not hyperbole, I can't fathom how they could make it any easier.

From within windows I can adjust my CPU overclock dynamically, on the fly, as I see fit. And its all just multiplier ratios. No more futzing around with straps and FSBRAM rations and so on.

It just all happens in the background automagically.

I take that back, it could be on step easier...it could be as easy as overclocking a video card with that MSI Afterburner utility in which you just drag a slider from within windows and you dynamically dial in any MHz and Voltage you desire (within the programmed limits of course).

But still, OC'ing today's leading edge CPU's is nothing like OC'ing chips from the C2D era.

I miss manually changing the dip switches on my p3 coppermine board. I got from 700 to 784 in no time flat! You kids these days don't realize how easy you've got it!

 

[tweakboy]

Ya on my old mans new 2600k rig, soo easy, just take up the number LOL if your literate you can do it , if your a retard you still may be able to say change number then multiply it with multi and get your Mhz , then for CPU voltage , take to 1.35v ,, next thing u know your running at 4.5Ghz of ubber dubbber power!!!! amen

 

[tweakboy]

OCing used to be tidious now anyone can do it, even Mom ,,, or your sister.


Also make sure your RAM is running at proper divider or proper speed and not above spec. If you have unstable RAM , ull have a unstable CPU, thus computer thus crash, or shutdown or restart. thx

 

[Idontcare]

Actually, it was more a question rather than a semantic argument since I really don't know for sure that non-K models are impossible to overclock. I've simply read that it is. As I'm unfamiliar with Sandy Bridge processors but am in the market to buy one soon. What isn't too clear, because as you mentioned, not every makes this distinction, is whether buying a non-K means a complete inability to overclock. Does it? Or are there exceptions?

For Sandy Bridge, if the cpu is NOT a K-version then OC'ing is pretty much a no-go. You'll get a few percent by way of OC'ing the BCLK, but no more than 5% or so.

If you get a K-version then OC'ing is a cinch. I OC'ed my 2600K to 4.5GHz across all cores, LinX stable, by literally doing nothing more than changing the multiplier from within windows using Asus AI Suite...no voltage changes were needed, nothing.

 

[toyota]

For Sandy Bridge, if the cpu is NOT a K-version then OC'ing is pretty much a no-go. You'll get a few percent by way of OC'ing the BCLK, but no more than 5% or so.

If you get a K-version then OC'ing is a cinch. I OC'ed my 2600K to 4.5GHz across all cores, LinX stable, by literally doing nothing more than changing the multiplier from within windows using Asus AI Suite...no voltage changes were needed, nothing.

you can still oc non K i5/i7 cpus a bit by upping the turbo. you should not mess with BCLK at all.

 

[tweakboy]

But really, we need more cores in the desktop CPU line for 2012

There was a dual socket mobo I saw the pic too forgot where it was EVGA it had 2 sockets and a butt load of ram slots in 2 different places.

Can you imagine putting 2 3960x E together, or better yet wait for ivy wait more until 2020 ,, well be on 9nm fab hehehe