Is Romney flip flopping back to Romneycare?

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techs

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http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/OTUS...s-massachusetts-health-plan/story?id=16969425

Romney Pivots, Embraces Romneycare Again

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But as much as the news cycle has spun on the idea that Saul somehow slipped and lost the narrative thread, recent statements (and some from a bit further back) from Romney on health care policy and overhaul indicate that the former Massachusetts governor might be trying to take some air out the issue.

Romney spoke Wednesday about health care in Des Moines, Iowa. One could be forgiven for thinking he sounded like a candidate who has grown increasingly reluctant to dismiss his most significant and successful public policy achievement.

"At the top of my list of programs we don't need is one that costs $100 billion a year I'm going to get rid of and that's Obamacare," he said to cheers at a rally.

But then he made a telling pivot. "And by the way," he added, "that doesn't mean that health care is perfect. We've got to do reforms in health care and I have some experience doing that, as you know. And I know how to make a better setting than the one we have in health care."




Cliffs: Romney has realized that much of the individual parts of Obamacare are very highly supported. So he is now he is saying they were his ideas and he will replace Obamacare with his health care plan. He says he knows about how to do this because he did such a good job on Romneycare when he was in Mass.


This should be interesting. The fact is that the things people really like, for instance the no preexisting exlusions, are possible due to the individual mandate, which apparently Romney will oppose.

Its actually quite brilliant. Offering all the popular parts of Obamacare and saying he will get rid of the bad parts. Of course, the "bad parts" are what make it work and without them there is no chance of doing anything else.
 

nehalem256

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Cliffs: Romney has realized that much of the individual parts of Obamacare are very highly supported. So he is now he is saying they were his ideas and he will replace Obamacare with his health care plan. He says he knows about how to do this because he did such a good job on Romneycare when he was in Mass.


This should be interesting. The fact is that the things people really like, for instance the no preexisting exlusions, are possible due to the individual mandate, which apparently Romney will oppose.

Its actually quite brilliant. Offering all the popular parts of Obamacare and saying he will get rid of the bad parts. Of course, the "bad parts" are what make it work and without them there is no chance of doing anything else.

I believe polls have shown that people support all of the "goodies", but oppose the provisions that involve paying for them. Shocking I know right :p.

So really Romney is saying he agree with the voters... and is an idiot.
 

rudder

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Newsflash: Urgent!!! Because apparently techs did not get the message:

Romney will do and say whatever he thinks will get him into the White House. It is a tight race between him and obama... however I think obama had definitely made the more idiotic inane moves.

So really do we need 10,000 daily Romney did this, Romney did that threads a day?
 

Doppel

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Romney is actually the most unconvicted fvck to try and win office in recent memory. That he demonizes a program substantially mirroring one he is also proud of gets to the heart of his hypocrisy.
 

Jaskalas

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Romney has always and consistently stood behind Romneycare.

Did you not watch the Republican debates? The man is incapable of admitting a mistake.
 
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Just saying the word Obamacare gets them into a drooling riled up frenzy. He could take the same 2000 pages and call it Romneycare (hmm sounds familiar) and they would think it was the best thing since sliced bread.
 

mect

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Just saying the word Obamacare gets them into a drooling riled up frenzy. He could take the same 2000 pages and call it Romneycare (hmm sounds familiar) and they would think it was the best thing since sliced bread.

And suddenly the Dems would be raising holy hell about government being in collusion with the insurance industry forcing people to buy a product.
 

Wreckem

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Its more along the lines of Romney has mastered the art of taking both sides of the same issue.
 

zsdersw

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Newsflash: Urgent!!! Because apparently techs did not get the message:

Romney will do and say whatever he thinks will get him into the White House. It is a tight race between him and obama... however I think obama had definitely made the more idiotic inane moves.

So really do we need 10,000 daily Romney did this, Romney did that threads a day?

Newsflash: Urgent!!! Because apparently rudder did not get the message:

It's an election year. It's stupid to whine about all the Candidate X did this or did that threads. You're also under no obligation to read or post in them.
 

Smoblikat

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I personally dont give two shits about obama care or romney care. Remove the mandate and you can do what you please, its not like it matters anyway, America is dead as it is.
 

HomerJS

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I personally dont give two shits about obama care or romney care. Remove the mandate and you can do what you please, its not like it matters anyway, America is dead as it is.

If you remove that mandate, then the mandate for hospitals to treat without proof of insurance or ability to pay needs to be removed. Any ideas on how to manage that?
 

Anarchist420

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It pisses me off when anyone actually thinks that Romney would repeal it and replace it with nothing. The fact that he said he would "repeal and replace obamacare" is very old news. If he says he's going to do both, rather than simply repeal and replace with nothing, then he's not going to reduce federal intervention in the health care sector.

In addition, Eric cantor and several other Republicans are on record as saying that they favor certain parts of the law.

I can't believe that we wound up with two identical candidates running against each other again. The Founders would be ashamed of us for what we're putting up with.
 

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