Is right and wrong overuled by mob mentality?

[Train]

I've been noticing a lot on this board that no matter how sound someones argument is, if they are alone vs 10 other posters, they lose. They cant possibly argue with 10 people repeating the same thing over and over.

Makes me wonder if people are ganging up to "drown out" the opposing opinions. I've also noted some posters will always appear in a thread shortly after certain other posters, often to affirm what thier "friend" just said.

 

[Czar]

I have noticed that as well

We have two opinions, these opinions have lets say two posters each and about ten yes men

If someone of one of those opinions posts and if none of the other two of the opposing opinions posts quick enough the thread will fill with yes men agreeing with the original poster, even sometimes these yes men argue over how right they are and the op and their great opinion.

At that point when one of the two of the people with the other opinion comes and read the thread they will in most cases not reply but simply ignore it.. just because they were outnumbered by the yes men.

 

[catnap1972]

Originally posted by: Train
I've been noticing a lot on this board that no matter how sound someones argument is, if they are alone vs 10 other posters, they lose. They cant possibly argue with 10 people repeating the same thing over and over.

Makes me wonder if people are ganging up to "drown out" the opposing opinions. I've also noted some posters will always appear in a thread shortly after certain other posters, often to affirm what thier "friend" just said.

Oh, REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEALLY? :roll:

You mean like your (RW) CJs? Or does the point only count when you whine that 10 "lefties" are ganging up and piling onto one of you?

 

[Amplifier]

That is why...

Profitability > Morality

100% of the time.

 

[azazyel]

Is right and wrong overuled by mob mentality?

where the hell have you been living? Of course it is, look at every real wrong that has perpetrated in history and you will see a big group supporting it. That's why it is so important that if you have an opinion and you think it's right that you speak up and let it be known.

To be or not to be: that is the question:
Whether this nobler in the mind to suffer
The slings and arrows of outrageous fortune:
Or to take arms against a sea of troubles;
And by opposing end them?

 

[DaveSimmons]

"If you listen to fools, the mob rules"

 

[Stunt]

Yes, but this is expected.

Republicans in blue states are drowned out, Democrats in red states are drowned out.

The masses always determine the agenda.

I feel helpless in my own country as it is ver much against fiscal conservatism and capitalism. That is why I sympathize with democrats in the US, some of their concerns are well thought out and justified, but they seem to have little sway in a Republican dominated country.

 

[Train]

Originally posted by: catnap1972
...You mean like your (RW) CJs?

wtf are those?

Or does the point only count when you whine that 10 "lefties" are ganging up and piling onto one of you?

when did I point out righties or lefties?

otherwise, thanks for the useless post.

 

[azazyel]

Originally posted by: Stunt
Yes, but this is expected.

Republicans in blue states are drowned out, Democrats in red states are drowned out.

The masses always determine the agenda.

I feel helpless in my own country as it is ver much against fiscal conservatism and capitalism. That is why I sympathize with democrats in the US, some of their concerns are well thought out and justified, but they seem to have little sway in a Republican dominated country.

Good point, I just really want the government to stay out of my personal life. If our government could just focus on real issues and leave the social issues to the states imagine what they could get done.


/Still dreaming of a Libertarian canidate for 08

 

[BBond]

Is right and wrong overuled by mob mentality?

It was for Bush on Iraq.

 

[Rainsford]

Originally posted by: azazyel

Is right and wrong overuled by mob mentality?

where the hell have you been living? Of course it is, look at every real wrong that has perpetrated in history and you will see a big group supporting it. That's why it is so important that if you have an opinion and you think it's right that you speak up and let it be known.

To be or not to be: that is the question:
Whether this nobler in the mind to suffer
The slings and arrows of outrageous fortune:
Or to take arms against a sea of troubles;
And by opposing end them?

Indeed...although I shudder at referencing a comedy movie for intellectual insight, that quote from Men in Black said it best, "A person is smart, people are dumb". Like azazyel said, a lot of wrongs in history had a big group of people behind it, even the majority in many cases. Would all those individuals have done the same thing without reinforcement from their peers? I doubt it.

 

[Proletariat]

Thats life. If you can step above and defy all of your enemies and show them whats right thats all that matters.

 

[BBond]

Originally posted by: Proletariat
Thats life. If you can step above and defy all of your enemies and show them whats right thats all that matters.

And at the end of the Cold War, with America as the only remaining "super-power," we had a rare opportunity to show the world what we were truly made of. And just look at what Bush chose to show them.

 

[Train]

Originally posted by: BBond
And at the end of the Cold War, with America as the only remaining "super-power," we had a rare opportunity to show the world what we were truly made of. And just look at what Bush chose to show them.

Thanks for two troll posts in the same thread. Again, this is not a rightie/leftie topic.

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

Originally posted by: BBond

Originally posted by: Proletariat
Thats life. If you can step above and defy all of your enemies and show them whats right thats all that matters.

And at the end of the Cold War, with America as the only remaining "super-power," we had a rare opportunity to show the world what we were truly made of. And just look at what Bush chose to show them.

Look at what Clinton showed Bin Laden. OBL saw our "soft underbelly" and attacked. Yeah baybay, we sure showed them. :roll:

EDIT: And "mob mentality" is precisely why we are not a true democracy. People generally want to make the easy choice and the one that benefits them personally instead of what is good for most.

 

[BBond]

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: BBond

Originally posted by: Proletariat
Thats life. If you can step above and defy all of your enemies and show them whats right thats all that matters.

And at the end of the Cold War, with America as the only remaining "super-power," we had a rare opportunity to show the world what we were truly made of. And just look at what Bush chose to show them.

Look at what Clinton showed Bin Laden. OBL saw our "soft underbelly" and attacked. Yeah baybay, we sure showed them. :roll:

UH...that was Bush in the White House when OBL attacked.

The chicken doesn't need mob mentality to be overruled. The chicken is overruled by any mentality.

 

[sandorski]

Everyone always claims the Moral High Ground. The Mob merely has the power to ensure that their Morlality is the right Morality, not because it is, but because it wins by default.

OTOH, more specific to P&N, ya, there's certainly some Mob mentality on both sides of major issues/political viewpoints. I think we've all become parts of one mob or another in one thread or another, I know I have. It's difficult not to at times when the subjects are controversial and someone states something that causes shock and horror as to the implications of such a statement. The subject matter of P&N often deals with peoples lives(not on this board obviously) and the future of peoples lives, so as in Politics, it can get a little hairy at times.

 

[Stunt]

Originally posted by: sandorski
It's difficult not to at times when the subjects are controversial and someone states something that causes shock

Like claiming New Orleans was hit because of gays and women who take off their shirts? :roll:

 

[luigi1]

Im no friend of gays, quite the contary. But I am a great and gratefull friend of women who take off their shirts. But thats just me I'm guessing. And I wish no harm to the peaple of La, and Miss. No content, just had to respond. Nothing to see here, move along.

 

[Whaspe]

Originally posted by: BBond

Is right and wrong overuled by mob mentality?

It was for Bush on Iraq.

Actually it was Bush and Blair take on the world.... Guess he went against the grain.

 

[Engineer]

Originally posted by: BBond

Is right and wrong overuled by mob mentality?

It was for Bush on Iraq.

The great uniter.

*bah*

:frown: :roll: :frown:

 

[Whaspe]

Originally posted by: sandorski
Everyone always claims the Moral High Ground. The Mob merely has the power to ensure that their Morlality is the right Morality, not because it is, but because it wins by default.

OTOH, more specific to P&N, ya, there's certainly some Mob mentality on both sides of major issues/political viewpoints. I think we've all become parts of one mob or another in one thread or another, I know I have. It's difficult not to at times when the subjects are controversial and someone states something that causes shock and horror as to the implications of such a statement. The subject matter of P&N often deals with peoples lives(not on this board obviously) and the future of peoples lives, so as in Politics, it can get a little hairy at times.

Isn't this the definition of democracy; majority rules? This is definitely played out in Parliament all the time, you should hear those guys during Q&A.

In regards to P&N, if you agree with what someone says, it's alot easier to do :thumbsup: or :beer: or something of that nature. So :thumbsup: :beer: :gift: to you Sandorski

 

[Vic]

Mob mentality is the same thing as force. "Might makes right." That some people choose to put their agendas before their morals is no shocker. That's just life.