Is Ps3 inferior to Xbox 360

abhinit90

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Well,i just had a question in my mind.

Is ps3's hardware inferior to 360's., because gta 4 runs at 640p on ps3 and 720p on 360.

This forces me to think one of the following points:-

1). Ps3's hardware is inferior to 360's,

2). Or else,microsoft paid take-two a truck full of money in order to create the controversy.

3). Anythinh else that i don't know . . . . .

i know many games run on sub-HD but a game running at different resolutions on different consoles is unacceptable.
 

jrphoenix

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I wouldn't say the hardware is inferior but, the developer toolbox probably is. Most developers say the PS3 is much harder to program for? I'm not a programmer so, I'm shooting in the dark.
 

R Nilla

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If anything I'd speculate that Rockstar had difficulty optimizing the PS3 version to get the most out of the hardware.
 

Queasy

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All in all, the two consoles are virtually even. The PS3 does some things the 360 can not and the 360 does some thing the PS3 can not. It is up to the devs to get the most out of both machines.
 

mugs

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It's hard to say which is "inferior." They're comparable. Much more comparable than last generation.

The screenshots from the two versions of GTA IV look pretty damn close to each other despite the different native resolution, and the Xbox 360 has slightly more texture pop-in than the PS3 version.

The PS3 supposedly has more untapped power than the 360, but anyone who tries to tell you how much more performance they can get out of either is a liar.
 

jrphoenix

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Originally posted by: BassBomb
Doesnt it run at 1080P on PS3?

Does it run in 1080P or 640p / i like the OP said?? I hadn't heard this? Anyone have some info?
 

Queasy

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Originally posted by: jrphoenix
Originally posted by: BassBomb
Doesnt it run at 1080P on PS3?

Does it run in 1080P or 640p / i like the OP said?? I hadn't heard this? Anyone have some info?

Bass was being sarcastic about the hype regarding the PS3 running games at 1080p (I think). GTA IV does indeed run at 640p.
 

purbeast0

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Originally posted by: Queasy
Originally posted by: jrphoenix
Originally posted by: BassBomb
Doesnt it run at 1080P on PS3?

Does it run in 1080P or 640p / i like the OP said?? I hadn't heard this? Anyone have some info?

Bass was being sarcastic about the hype regarding the PS3 running games at 1080p (I think). GTA IV does indeed run at 640p.

nah he just left out one detail ...

it runs at 1080p AND 60fps.
 

Schadenfroh

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Is ps3's hardware inferior to 360's., because gta 4 runs at 640p on ps3 and 720p on 360.
No, I would imagine that the developer just preferred to ship it earlier rather than take more time to optimize it for the PS3.

Do not assume a console is inferior compared to another based on a single cross-platform game.
 

abhinit90

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OMG so many replies in such a short while...........

Also for all you people who are confused the Ps3 version of gta 4 runa at 640p and is upscaled to 1080p.

In a simpler language :-

it is like you run a game at 1024*768 on a monitor with a native resolution of 1280*1024.

Also, i agree that people should not create a useless controversy over resolution (as there are many better things that have a talent hidden deep inside them to be a very good controversy) as we should only be concerned about the image quality which is more or less the same on both consoles.
 

BassBomb

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I honestly thought it ran at 1080P

Wheres the proof that it runs at 640P?

 

Queasy

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Originally posted by: BassBomb
I honestly thought it ran at 1080P

Wheres the proof that it runs at 640P?

Link

But as mentioned above, the PS3 upscales this.
 

Modeps

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Originally posted by: abhinit90
In a simpler language :-
It is like you run a game at 1024*768 on a monitor with a native resolution of 1280*1024.

I'm pretty sure your simple explanation is incorrect.
 

jrphoenix

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Originally posted by: abhinit90
Originally posted by: BassBomb
I honestly thought it ran at 1080P

Wheres the proof that it runs at 640P?

the developer himself mentioned it.

Cool.. So, I get better resolution and DLC. Are there any rumors as to when the DLC will come and what it will contain???
 

AstroManLuca

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Are there any games that actually run (and are rendered) at 1080p on either console? I know that both are capable of displaying 1080p video, either from the PS3's built-in Blu-Ray drive or from the 360's HD-DVD attachment. But I've never heard of any game that's actually rendered at full 1080p. 720p, sure. Maybe not for really demanding games, but there are plenty out there that are doing 720p.

EDIT: Found out that there are three on the Xbox 360 and 26 on the PS3:

http://www.makeyougohmm.com/xbox360-1080p-games/
http://www.makeyougohmm.com/ps3-1080p-games/
 

abhinit90

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Originally posted by: Modeps
Originally posted by: abhinit90
In a simpler language :-
It is like you run a game at 1024*768 on a monitor with a native resolution of 1280*1024.

I'm pretty sure your simple explanation is incorrect.

Care to correct ?
 

abhinit90

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Originally posted by: AstroManLuca
Are there any games that actually run (and are rendered) at 1080p on either console? I know that both are capable of displaying 1080p video, either from the PS3's built-in Blu-Ray drive or from the 360's HD-DVD attachment. But I've never heard of any game that's actually rendered at full 1080p. 720p, sure. Maybe not for really demanding games, but there are plenty out there that are doing 720p.

List of ps3 games which run natively at 1080p :-

All Pro Football 2K7

[ps] Blast Factor

[ps] Calling All Cars
College Hoops 2K7

The Darkness

Fantastic Four Rise of the Silver Surfer
[ps] flOw
Full Auto 2 Battlines

Harry Potter
[ps] High Stakes on the Vegas Strip: Poker Edition

[ps] LocoRoco Cocoreccho!

Marvel Ultimate Alliance
MLB The Show

NBA ?07
NBA 2K7
Ninja Gaiden
Pirates of the Carribean
[ps] Pixeljunk Racers
[ps] Piyotama
Street Home Court
[ps] Super Stardust HD
Transformers The Movie
[ps] Tekken 5: Dark Resurrection
Virtua Tennis 3
 

mugs

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Originally posted by: abhinit90
Originally posted by: Modeps
Originally posted by: abhinit90
In a simpler language :-
It is like you run a game at 1024*768 on a monitor with a native resolution of 1280*1024.

I'm pretty sure your simple explanation is incorrect.

Care to correct ?

It's upscaled by the PS3, not the monitor. Other than that, it sounds about right.
 

Modeps

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Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: abhinit90
Originally posted by: Modeps
Originally posted by: abhinit90
In a simpler language :-
It is like you run a game at 1024*768 on a monitor with a native resolution of 1280*1024.

I'm pretty sure your simple explanation is incorrect.

Care to correct ?

It's upscaled by the PS3, not the monitor. Other than that, it sounds about right.

I'm just looking to closely at things. Nevermind, your explanation is good enough :)

I was more thinking in PS3/360 upscaling vs Monitor scaling anyway... and I realized I was just being too technical and it wasnt necessary in this context... specially due to the fact it was supposed to be a simple explanation anways.
 

Oyeve

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Originally posted by: abhinit90
Originally posted by: AstroManLuca
Are there any games that actually run (and are rendered) at 1080p on either console? I know that both are capable of displaying 1080p video, either from the PS3's built-in Blu-Ray drive or from the 360's HD-DVD attachment. But I've never heard of any game that's actually rendered at full 1080p. 720p, sure. Maybe not for really demanding games, but there are plenty out there that are doing 720p.

List of ps3 games which run natively at 1080p :-

All Pro Football 2K7

[ps] Blast Factor

[ps] Calling All Cars
College Hoops 2K7

The Darkness

Fantastic Four Rise of the Silver Surfer
[ps] flOw
Full Auto 2 Battlines

Harry Potter
[ps] High Stakes on the Vegas Strip: Poker Edition

[ps] LocoRoco Cocoreccho!

Marvel Ultimate Alliance
MLB The Show

NBA ?07
NBA 2K7
Ninja Gaiden
Pirates of the Carribean
[ps] Pixeljunk Racers
[ps] Piyotama
Street Home Court
[ps] Super Stardust HD
Transformers The Movie
[ps] Tekken 5: Dark Resurrection
Virtua Tennis 3

And 99% of those games suck. Whats your point?
 

Bateluer

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Originally posted by: Oyeve
Originally posted by: abhinit90
Originally posted by: AstroManLuca
Are there any games that actually run (and are rendered) at 1080p on either console? I know that both are capable of displaying 1080p video, either from the PS3's built-in Blu-Ray drive or from the 360's HD-DVD attachment. But I've never heard of any game that's actually rendered at full 1080p. 720p, sure. Maybe not for really demanding games, but there are plenty out there that are doing 720p.

List of ps3 games which run natively at 1080p :-

All Pro Football 2K7

[ps] Blast Factor

[ps] Calling All Cars
College Hoops 2K7

The Darkness

Fantastic Four Rise of the Silver Surfer
[ps] flOw
Full Auto 2 Battlines

Harry Potter
[ps] High Stakes on the Vegas Strip: Poker Edition

[ps] LocoRoco Cocoreccho!

Marvel Ultimate Alliance
MLB The Show

NBA ?07
NBA 2K7
Ninja Gaiden
Pirates of the Carribean
[ps] Pixeljunk Racers
[ps] Piyotama
Street Home Court
[ps] Super Stardust HD
Transformers The Movie
[ps] Tekken 5: Dark Resurrection
Virtua Tennis 3

And 99% of those games suck. Whats your point?

99% of all console games are trash. :p

Incidentally, the PS3's hardware is substantially more powerful than the 360's, its just much harder to program for.