Is Pornography Driving Men Crazy?

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NiCE jacket!

 

[Painman]

If anything, watching and whacking off to too much modern porn jades you towards "regular" folks (such as those without pierced, tatttooed and waxed gentialia who don't have squirting orgasms) and makes you less likely to have a good time when you discover that your actual partner doesn't live up to such utterly unrealistic standards.

Porn is a fantasy, but it's been with us ever since recorded time. So have drugs. People are going to imbibe pleasurable things, either physically or mentally, and history has proven that forcing things undergroud, so that they become a form of taboo, has never, ever stopped them.

You cannot legislate human desires, a/k/a/ morality. Although we've been trying to so for millenia. The biggest, hugest point of moral consternation that has raged upon the ages, and still manifests itself this very day, is how terrible it is that Women Get Horny. Female sexuality = OMG SCARY SHUT IT DOWN NOW!!!1!!!1

Someone really ought to finally do something about that... Cue Rick Santorum in 3, 2, 1...

 

[Dr. Zaus]

cannot legislate human desires

murder, rape and theft are desires.
Cannot (fails to succeed at times)
Cannot (is morally wrong to try)
are two very different contexts for this argument.

I think that what you are trying to argue is that, given human agency, when something is only harmful to the individual in question or based off of a morality that is derived from a prudential world view then creating laws against the behavior it is both contrary to functional value, due to difficulty of enforcement, and not something that should be done, due to it being socially repressive.

If this is a better formation of your argument then we can move on to talking about it. The biggest, hugest point of consternation for people that refuse to think, that has raged upon the ages, and still manifests itself this very day, is how terrible simple minded people are willing to be when something supports their views... Thinking about what I think and why = Holy Sh1t someone is thinking deeper than sloganeering!?!@@#

Someone really ought to shout down and/or ignore that... Cue defense of thinking in memes in 3... 2... 1...

 

[zephyrprime]

Naomi Wolf is such an idiot feminist and she is obviously afraid of sex. Plus, she contradicts herself in her own article. First she says "men in recent years (indeed, months) have behaved in sexually self-destructive ways. Some powerful men have long been sexually voracious;". So porn is making men into ravenous sex beasts. But then she says the "rise in pornography consumption among young men with an increase in impotence and premature ejaculation among the same population." and the "porn use was desensitizing healthy young men to the erotic appeal of their own partners". Porn can't do both Naomi! Is it making men ravenous or is it deadening the libido? Make up yer mind!

The truth of the matter is this. Women like Naomi are highly insecure about their own feminity and desiribility to the opposite sex. I can of course sympathize with this and I think it is unfortunate that women have to compete (to some extent) with porn which isn't even real. However, some women like Naomi allow their fears to consume them and then they lose all perspective and start turning molehills into mountains claiming that the sky is falling. They project their personal fears into a societal problem so that they can feel more justified and self rightous about their own personal problems.

 

[Munky]

Yeah, but it isn't just the feminists. Far and away the larger group who want the industry prosecuted under obscenities laws are evangelicals. Among the anti-porn feminists, many do not even advocate censorship. They just want to raise awareness about it.

The thing with religion is that often their message coincides with the message of the feminists, even if unintentionally. We have evangelical preachers telling men not to judge women by looks, that "real beauty" in on the inside, that they should commit to a woman, get married and be a good little provider like it's his purpose in life. I typically do not see the same message preached to women - as in be obedient to your husband, don't be so picky waiting for a prince charming, don't judge men by their status. It may not be the case everywhere, but I'm speaking from my own experience.

 

[FelixDeCat]

Terrible they would stop you' being able to watch young lesbian girl porn!
Heavens forbid!

It is right and good to stop the proliferation of perverted wankers.

 

[FelixDeCat]

You didn't read the bathroom wall, now did ya?


BTW, although I am not a 70's swinger, I still remember having to use the pay phone to get a ride home...

It is common knowledge that people find it acceptable to masturbate on such sites as omegle and chatroulette to any random stranger. These things didnt happen before the lowering of decency and standards brought on by the proliferation of online porn.

Even worse, these people are being secretly captured doing their "thing" then it is uploaded to porn sites for the world to see. Their face, background, everything is put all over the internet. These people are of all races, ages and both sexes and privacy is not guaranteed or respected.

If these idiots knew that the person on the other side of the camera was recording them (sometimes using recorded decoys to entice them), this would never happen at all. :thumbsdown:

 

[Ninjahedge]

No, they just found beating off to a magazine they stole from daddy while under the sheets fine.

Or they went out and took it to the dog, cat, or duct taped smaller mammals (things I heard before the internets was even in existence).

The only thing that has really changed is that more people are aware of these things now.

A similar correlation can be drawing to things such as litigation rewarding claimants huge rewards and bizarre crimes. While both seem to be out of control, they have both gone DOWN. It is just because you now hear of XYZ getting $40M for snapping their lip into a baby wipe container in Kentucky that you think that this is rampant.

As for privacy, that is a laugh. If you are dumb enough to jack off on an online camera to a stranger, you should not be surprised when your privates go public.

 

[FelixDeCat]

As for privacy, that is a laugh. If you are dumb enough to jack off on an online camera to a stranger, you should not be surprised when your privates go public.

The false perception of anonymity should be constantly and conspiciously dispelled on these sites to remind people that sexual activity is not just being broadcast between themselves but to the world at large. As it is, anyone can go there and think the opposite is true. It would not surprise me to see them sued or be held criminally liable because of this false perception.

 

[Ninjahedge]

Meh.

The only thing they should be held liable for is the 18 and up warning, but anything else is not their responsibility.

You can only tell people that hitting yourself in the face with a mallet hurts so many times before someone will do it anyway.