Is Pentium G4560 identical to Core i3-4330?

[kwalkingcraze]

Because the benchmark score, including graphics of HD610 vs. HD4600, is so identical. Same frequency speed. I'm just figuring out how much I saved?

 

[whm1974]

Get the G4600 instead. It has the full HD 630.

 

[crashtech]

The G4600 is just $7 more at Newegg right now, so I'm inclined to agree with whm1974 if integrated graphics are to be used; you get HD 630 and another 100MHz in the bargain.

 

[Abwx]

Main difference, outside of L3 size, is support of AVX/AVX2.

 

[whm1974]

Main difference, outside of L3 size, is support of AVX/AVX2.

How needed is that for most applications?

 

[kwalkingcraze]

Well, I believe Intel made a huge mistake in marketing, and the G4560 should just be a plain dual-core in first place. Then we have hyperthreading starting with G4600 and G4620. Makes a lot more sense. The pricing gap difference between G4400 and G4560 is so divided and cruel, one of the worst I've seen in my lifetime.

With the Kaby Lake refresh coming, my wish list is a Pentium G4540, for example, clocked at 3.4GHz without hyperthreading, and at a much lower price.

 

[kwalkingcraze]

The G4600 is just $7 more at Newegg right now, so I'm inclined to agree with whm1974 if integrated graphics are to be used; you get HD 630 and another 100MHz in the bargain.

Micro Center has the Pentium G4560 for $56.99 right now, while supplies last. MSRP is actually only $64.99, so Newegg is indeed overcharging extra by $15 and earning extra profit than G4600. Micro Center usually sell all their stuff for 20% off the MSRP retail price (they're not aware of G4560 shortage).

http://www.microcenter.com/product/477030/g4560_350ghz_kaby_lake

 

[crashtech]

I'm cruelly inflicted with users lording their proximity to a Microcenter over me, I must seek a safe space now.

 

[kwalkingcraze]

I'm cruelly inflicted with users lording their proximity to a Microcenter over me, I must seek a safe space now.

Yes, that's the same price with Pentium G3220 before. G3220's successor is G4400, and then G4560 in order. Newegg increases it by $25 two generations later.

 

[Abwx]

How needed is that for most applications?

http://www.hardware.fr/articles/960-3/performances-applicatives.html

The reviewer say that those instructions provide a greater gain than the frequency delta between the Pentium and an i3 in X264/265 encoding, Lightroom and Stockfish (chess game).

That being said the review conclusion is that despite those differences i3s are rendered about irrelevant by this CPU....

 

[whm1974]

IF you are not

http://www.hardware.fr/articles/960-3/performances-applicatives.html

The reviewer say that those instructions provide a greater gain than the frequency delta between the Pentium and an i3 in X264/265 encoding, Lightroom and Stockfish (chess game).

That being said the review conclusion is that despite those differences i3s are rendered about irrelevant by this CPU....

So if users don't need those instructions anyway, they should just get the G4600?

 

[dave_the_nerd]

IF you are not

So if users don't need those instructions anyway, they should just get the G4600?

Generally speaking, paying more for features you definitely won't need is unwise.

Paying more for features you might need sometimes pays dividends, though. So I'd want to be sure you weren't going to need them.

 

[VirtualLarry]

If you do distributed computing, the i3's AVX/AVX2 opcodes can prove to be very potent. So consider that. Strictly gaming, though? Don't work about AVX/AVX2, no games use it (to my knowledge).

 

[whm1974]

If you do distributed computing, the i3's AVX/AVX2 opcodes can prove to be very potent. So consider that. Strictly gaming, though? Don't work about AVX/AVX2, no games use it (to my knowledge).

Personally if I was a x86 CPU manufacturer I would have all instructions standard across the entire line aside from something like the Atom series.

 

[VirtualLarry]

Personally if I was a x86 CPU manufacturer I would have all instructions standard across the entire line aside from something like the Atom series.

You would think that would be wise, especially with competing CPU architecture families like ARM breathing down their necks. If ALL x86/x64 CPUs had AVX/AVX2, then they would have a superiority and ISA lock-in that ARM really couldn't touch. But Intel isn't doing that, for whatever reason. They would rather milk their existing customer base for money, while they still have customers, rather than look strategically at what's coming down the pike.

 

[Abwx]

IF you are not

So if users don't need those instructions anyway, they should just get the G4600?

On the long term the Pentium is a better choice as the cost of a future upgrade will be minimalistic assuming that SKL/KBL i7 will cost less than 100$ in a few years given the rampant cores inflation, this wasnt possible previously as the best Intel offering was stuck on 4C/8T CPUs, so old chips like SB 2600K kept being expensive, but it wont be the case thanks to said evolution toward mainstreamed 6C and surely 8C a little later.

 

[kwalkingcraze]

Looks like Denver, CO's Micro Center store has 10+ in-stock. If I'm lucky, there could be 10+ for California store tomorrow.

http://www.microcenter.com/product/477030/g4560_350ghz_kaby_lake

Virtual_Larry, your local MC store has it in-stock now. Let the fun buying war begins.

 

[Leyawiin]

Looks like Denver, CO's Micro Center store has 10+ in-stock. If I'm lucky, there could be 10+ for California store tomorrow.

http://www.microcenter.com/product/477030/g4560_350ghz_kaby_lake

Virtual_Larry, your local MC store has it in-stock now. Let the fun buying war begins.

I hate both of you. We had one measly Microcenter in Northern California and they closed it years ago. You'd think of all places there would be one in the Bay Area.

 

[kwalkingcraze]

I hate both of you. We had one measly Microcenter in Northern California and they closed it years ago. You'd think of all places there would be one in the Bay Area.

The lease was too-expensive that affected their profits. Now the lease is more-expensive than before after they closed. Micro Center will never return to Bay area.

 

[Leyawiin]

The lease was too-expensive that affected their profits. Now the lease is more-expensive than before after they closed. Micro Center will never return to Bay area.

There is no way they can't find retail space somewhere in the greater Bay Area that would be feasible. Heck, they're in Orange County and suburban NYC - not exactly low rent places.