Is penryn going to be a native 4 core cpu or just 2 conroes glued together?

[AnotherGuy]

Quick question as the title says...

 

[ForumMaster]

it appears to be a die shrink and that's all. two dies glued together. i believe that Nehalem is Intel's native quad core architecture.

 

[Pwntcomputer]

Originally posted by: ForumMaster
it appears to be a die shrink and that's all. two dies glued together. i believe that Nehalem is Intel's native quad core architecture.

Saying that it is simply a die shrink couldn't be further from the truth.

86 ISA: Intel Streaming SIMD Extensions 4 (SSE4) instructions
6MB of L2 cache per chip
A faster divider
A new lower power state
Dynamic Acceleration Tech
A split-load cache
Improved virtualization

Gelsinger said they'd measured a 3.2GHz desktop part at 20% higher gaming performance than the current fastest Conroe. For applications that use SSE4, like media encoding, we can expect to see improvements of over 40%.

Given these stats, I can't understand why people are still purchasing new Conroe systems. I mean I guess if you have a P3 or something.


Do you think people should hold out for Nehalem? I'm definitely not upgrading until Quad cores run a little cooler.

 

[yacoub]

People might be upgrading now to get the board and the RAM and get an E4300 for now and then drop in the Penryn in the Fall or whenever it comes out.
It's still s775 right?

 

[Dubb]

Originally posted by: yacoub
People might be upgrading now to get the board and the RAM and get an E4300 for now and then drop in the Penryn in the Fall or whenever it comes out.
It's still s775 right?

That's what I'm wondering...

do we have TDP/heat/pwer info on the penryn quad cores? I'd like to eventually do a quad core build in a zalman tnn500af, but to do that I'd need a quad at less than 100w. Hopefully penryn will do that.

 

[aigomorla]

actually edit i found some real info on penryn:

http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/434

i think we can use our exist boards with this chip.

neph, is going to be a different story tho....

 

[Dubb]

I don't know much about this... but from what I've seen there doesn't seem to be much that would require a new socket. new chipset, maybe....

does anyone remember what the story was with the pentium D 8xx>9xx transition? so far this seems somewhat similar.

 

[Dubb]

Originally posted by: aigomorla
actually edit i found some real info on penryn:

http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/434

i think we can use our exist boards with this chip.

neph, is going to be a different story tho....

one of the slides in that article says 95/130w tdp for penryn quads. a 95w quad core that works in a current 975x board would be great.

edit...and also mentions 50w/80w/120w xeons....as long as there's a UP 80w quad...even better!

 

[tersome]

Originally posted by: Dubb
I don't know much about this... but from what I've seen there doesn't seem to be much that would require a new socket. new chipset, maybe....

does anyone remember what the story was with the pentium D 8xx>9xx transition? so far this seems somewhat similar.

From what I've heard, penryn is going to use a new VRM spec, like from Pentium D from Conroe. Current boards might work with modding.

 

[Pwntcomputer]

Originally posted by: tersome

Originally posted by: Dubb
I don't know much about this... but from what I've seen there doesn't seem to be much that would require a new socket. new chipset, maybe....

does anyone remember what the story was with the pentium D 8xx>9xx transition? so far this seems somewhat similar.

From what I've heard, penryn is going to use a new VRM spec, like from Pentium D from Conroe. Current boards might work with modding.

From Anandtech:

"Penryn family processors are supposed to be socket-compatible, meaning that on the desktop we will see them introduced as LGA-775 CPUs. We'd expect that Intel's new lineup of chipsets will be required, but we are not sure if the new chipsets will support the 1600MHz FSB out of the box or if a refresh will be required."

I do know that the X38 will only accept DDR3. P35 will take DDR2