is patriot ram good? 1600mhz ddr3 for $35

Shephard

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hey I don't know which brands of ram are good for ddr3. I know Samsung has good low profile 1600mhz but it's not on sale.

how is this?


8GB (2 x 4GB) Memory Type PC3-12800 DDR3 Speed 1600MHz Timings 9-9-9-24 Voltage 1.5V Pins 240-pin Unbuffered DIMM Heatspreaders Black Mamba Edition Viper 3 Series heat shield
it's $29.99 + $5 shipping + tax.

there is a rebate to make it $15 but I don't include that because it can void warranty I think.
 

Shephard

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so I couldn't send it back to Newegg in 30 days if it was messed up you mean? So I would have to deal with patriot.

is this good RAM or no wait for Samsung special?
 

Soulkeeper

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seems like a good deal to me
patriot has been around for awhile, places like fry's sell a lot of it.
 

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yes that's the Samsung ram I am talking about. Everyone says it's the best because it has no heatspreader and has lower voltage. But that price is in US dollars otherwise I would order because free shipping!

The mushkin has higher timing than Patriot? Don't you want lower?
 

BonzaiDuck

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yes that's the Samsung ram I am talking about. Everyone says it's the best because it has no heatspreader and has lower voltage. But that price is in US dollars otherwise I would order because free shipping!

The mushkin has higher timing than Patriot? Don't you want lower?

Your statement seems a bit mixed up. The Mushkin timings are "lower" or "tighter." The Samsungs are "higher" or "looser." But you must evaluate these "specification" settings in comparison to the voltage specs. The Sammies are spec'd at 1.35V; the Mushkin at 1.50V.

IF .. [ I say "IF"] . . klienkinstein thoroughly tested his settings, then one must say that an increase of only 0.02V to achieve his timings (and that includes the command-rate of 1) seems "almost" phenomenally small. But the Sammies can be volted up to 1.50V (as far as I know, saw or heard here). You will trade off voltage against timings: higher voltage may stabilize lower/tighter latencies; higher/looser timings will tolerate lower voltage.

I'm still using an old, established set of RipJaws -GBRL RAMs (4x4GB) spec'd at DDR3-1600 and 9-9-9-24 with 1.50V. At 1.52+V, I can run them at 1866 and 10-10-10-28. So I'm happy. If the Samsungs will get through an HCI-Memtest "1000%" run-coverage at Klienkinstein's settings, it only substantiates everything I've heard or seen. If they don't, there's plenty of voltage headroom to get them stable at his touted settings.

I'd say the Sammies are worth every penny even for an extra few bucks, but doubt there's anything at all wrong with the Mushkins. It isn't that I "don't like" Patriot or Mushkin; I'm well-satisfied with the G.SKILLs, and those Samsungs have been getting raves on a lot of different forums. Samsung had been "good" in the RAM "bidnis" in earlier years.
 

Shephard

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ok so G.SKILL is a good brand too. I never heard of them I thought they were some cheapo stuff.
 

BonzaiDuck

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ok so G.SKILL is a good brand too. I never heard of them I thought they were some cheapo stuff.

Back in the day, when Crucial was popular in 2007, I wondered why so many forum posters were using G.SKILL, and I, too, thought they were "some cheapo stuff." A person can only absorb so much in review-reading, and I was in a hurry to get some low-latency over-clocking RAM for my 2007 build. Turns out, the Crucials we were buying were "some cheapo stuff."

Others report that G.SKILL uses Samsung "black parts" for some of their memory. I can also say that they've been wise about how they spec and market their RAM, without counting the use of product-differentiating heat-spreaders and other gimmicks. Their RAM models seem to overlap in SPD specs of latency and voltage at comparable speed specs for models of different speeds.

Here's an interesting model of their RAM ignoring minor differences in price with other examples cited here by others:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...m-_-20-231-461

Keep in mind I've never bought nor used these Sniper RAMs. But I can see that they're popular -- given the total frequency count of reviews, and they seem to merit an average 5-star across that count. Take a look at the 1-star reviews: you may or may not get an idea of any "risks," but they're bound to be inconsequential. People who get the s***-end of the quality control stick are much more likely to post reviews than those who are satisfied, so seven out of ~200 or about 3.5% is a pretty good outer boundary for a QC statistic.

Thing about these: they're rated at 1600 Mhz with timings 9-9-9-24 and voltage of only [ONLY!] 1.25V. You could check and see if G.SKILL posts a maximum voltage for their warranty, but since their 1.50V models are good to 1.60+V, I can imagine a cautious possibility of pushing them to 1.50V. Then see if the spec timings can work at 1866 Mhz. And then see how low you can push the voltage at that speed and timings before they become unstable.

Or apply a different but reasonable strategy to find the stable voltage.

If I felt like spending some money at the moment (and $40+ each for two kits or $80 isn't "big money" to me), I'd either look for the 2x8GB models or use two 2x4GB kits and hold back my used 4x4GB "-GBRL" Ripjaws as part of a plan to rebuild the (currently LGA-775) machines for the mainstreamer fam-damn-ily. Then I'd look for some decent motherboards . . . later on . . .

There are a lot of memory options out there, and the market is so competitive that price differences hardly matter . . .
 

Blain

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ok so G.SKILL is a good brand too. I never heard of them I thought they were some cheapo stuff.
If I were shopping for high quality memory, I would use the following parameters as a guide...

* DDR3 rated at 1.5v or lower
* DDR3 rated at the lowest CAS I could afford
* DDR3 rated at the highest clock speed I could afford
* Limit the scope of my purchease to G.Skill, Mushkin, Corsair XMS or Crucial (non-Ballistix)

While not wavering on the voltage point, I would balance the other issues with my budget.

Remember, my goal is not pure "benchmarking" performance, but simply finding the highest quality memory I can afford. ^_^
The only reason I pay a premium for low latency, high speed, low voltage memory is...
Quality and quality alone.
1.5v is the JEDEC DDR3 voltage standard.
Stay with 1.5v or less if you can afford it..
:colbert: What he said