Dadofamunky
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Originally posted by: RobCur
OC has been illegal and will always be illegal. Motherboard manufacturers and cpu manufacturer does not condone the practice of overclocking. I'd do it temporarily for stability test but after a min or two, I'd revert back to normal speed for normal operation.
I think it is better to await awhile to buy a faster prcessor then to try force your cheap cpu to run as fast as that are of the high end cpu.
Patience is not something that most overclockers have, much like telling a speeder on the road to slow down. They'll just drive even faster which is funny.
Yeah, it's also a really un-Christian thing to do.
(Tongue planted firmly in cheek.)
As is generalizing about other people.
Zebo
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buying a bigger intake illegal? screw police state. I do what I want, when I want, how I want and accept the conseqeunces if caught. It's better for the soul to remain ignorant to the law IMO..just do what you were taught in kindergarden you'll be fine (golden rule). Moved from my HOA cause they assesed me $1000+ in fines over the years, I paid them and moved to country where I can burn my trash and fire a 12Ga into my pool if I want. How many of you nannys can shoot these off, the big ones, in your back yard? I'm going bigger this year and making some of my own FW. Illegal???
Illegal???He is right, Robcur, No law will punish you for doing overclocking. (About to finish Law Degree)
I'm sorry, but you win the idiot award today.
By your logic you'd always have the slowest speed CPU in a generation. My CPU is overclocked 600 Mhz or 33%. You think thats a difference I don't notice?
Jesus would probably overclock (imagine the speeds He would get lol) but He sure wouldnt RMA it if something dies.
If you advance the timeing on your car you get more power. Is that illegal? Nope. But if you melt a piston cuz of pinging or dont meet emisions, thats another story, you tried it, you lost. Suck it up.
RobCur:
Youve gotta be kidding. Any game will max a cpu for as long as you play it. Makes it worthwhile just for that.
If you advance the timeing on your car you get more power. Is that illegal? Nope. But if you melt a piston cuz of pinging or dont meet emisions, thats another story, you tried it, you lost. Suck it up.
RobCur:
Youve gotta be kidding. Any game will max a cpu for as long as you play it. Makes it worthwhile just for that.
Not saying youre wrong, but Ive never heard that and Ive advanced the timing in every car Ive owned and got more juice out of it. (I do before and after holeshots) As long as you use good gas.
Unless your running nos or turbo/supercharger, then it may be different.
Elfear
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Well, that's what I'm saying. Not every engine will respond to the timing being advanced with an increase in hp. Different engines like different methods for maximizing hp. Small block chevys equipped with Vortech heads actually don't like much timing dialed in to reach max hp, 32-34 degrees vs. 38-40 degrees for similiar small blocks with different aftermarket heads. I'm more familiar with sbc's but I'm sure the same is true for some other engines as well.
In general, advancing the timing can gain you some hp, but it shoulnd't be a blanket statement as not all engines will benefit.
Sorry for going off topic.
Interesting topic!
I think those who said overclocking is illegal are either they don't know how to overclock (jealous) or they overclock silently at the back. Hahaha!!
I think those who said overclocking is illegal are either they don't know how to overclock (jealous) or they overclock silently at the back. Hahaha!!
GuitarDaddy
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MADMAX23 ... i clicked on the link in your sig thinking that it was somthing else .. but anyway why does it say FSB 289.03, and 289.03 bus speed ... AMD's dont use FSB .. and that is supposed to be verified by CPU-z
Athlon 64s still use a bus to communicate with the memory, how else are they going to do it? They use the same double-pumped EV6 bus the K7s used, which at 200MHz is effectively 400MHz.
Aenslead
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I'd hardly call it stealing. Vendor won't make any loss, either. They send it to a warehouse, the warehouse sends it to the company, and the company happily replaces it, simply because they have no time to test every single CPU they receive from RMA, so they send it back to the foundry and re-use the re-usable parts.
Its a cicle. Besides, only 2% of CPU RMAs are because of OC. So no stealing there. Don't be such a dramatic goody-two-shoes boy.
90 percent of pc users don't overclock because it is basically stealing mhz from the manfacturers. If stealing is a good thing then I think you need to rob a bank so you can buy even better, faster cpu without the need to overclock
And no Jesus would never overclock, neither does he condones stealing in an impratical ways that is done without anyone's prior knowledge of the harms and side effects of pusing over the limits of a limited cpu clock in which you get what you pay for. You are sucking up more elecrtricity and killing your own health. If overclocking does not produce more heat and is not illegal in any means, I would have given it a GO decades ago.
Manufacturers would stop overclockers dead in their track if they could, they have tried but overclockers will always find some brilliant ways to get around it althought difficult and only the most thrilling overclockers are willing to take this kind of risky business of frying their component in the quest for more speed then necessary.
You could tell a drunk driver that 100+ miles an hour is dangerous and illegal, would he listen? I doubt. I put the overclockers and these automobile speeders in the same shoe
RobCur:
Youve gotta be kidding. Any game will max a cpu for as long as you play it. Makes it worthwhile just for that.[/quote]
90 percent of pc users don't overclock because it is basically stealing mhz from the manfacturers. If stealing is a good thing then I think you need to rob a bank so you can buy even better, faster cpu without the need to overclock
And no Jesus would never overclock, neither does he condones stealing in an impratical ways that is done without anyone's prior knowledge of the harms and side effects of pusing over the limits of a limited cpu clock in which you get what you pay for. You are sucking up more elecrtricity and killing your own health. If overclocking does not produce more heat and is not illegal in any means, I would have given it a GO decades ago.
Manufacturers would stop overclockers dead in their track if they could, they have tried but overclockers will always find some brilliant ways to get around it althought difficult and only the most thrilling overclockers are willing to take this kind of risky business of frying their component in the quest for more speed then necessary.
You could tell a drunk driver that 100+ miles an hour is dangerous and illegal, would he listen? I doubt. I put the overclockers and these automobile speeders in the same shoe
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very well said
90% of PC users don't overclock because they don't know what it is. They also couldn't use even an 800MHz P3 to the fullest, so there's no reason for them to want anything faster than their 3.2GHz P4 (with 128MB of RAM and integrated video) from Dell.Originally posted by: RobCur
90 percent of pc users don't overclock because it is basically stealing mhz from the manfacturers. If stealing is a good thing then I think you need to rob a bank so you can buy even better, faster cpu without the need to overclock
You're telling me that if no one overclocked, the environment would be significantly affected for the better, and one's health would be improved? Get real! :roll:
O/C produces a bit more heat, but my Athlon would put out less heat if O/C'ed than a Presc(h)ott puts out at stock. If environmental issues were your true motivation, then you'd be on Dell like something on velcro to switch to AMD. I think most people know that O/Cing involves some limited risk (which isn't as bad as you make it out to be, but anyway). It makes more sense to condemn overclocking which is used by some unscrupulous PC builders who buy a 2.4GHz CPU and sell it at a higher price to the end user who thinks they're getting a 2.8GHz CPU. This is most certainly wrong, unethical, and illegal. Overclocking your own CPU is not illegal, and you have yet to prove it. Show me the laws, right now, and I'll believe, but I know that you will ignore this request and come back with some nonsensical, unrelated crap.
You simply have no clue...
That is the most idiotic thing I've ever heard. Overclocking is not illegal, nor is it going to kill anyone (either the person doing it, or others nearby). You obviously have no skill at analogies, and at this point you're pulling things out of a daylight-deprived area. Come back when you can point to the laws that prove that overclocking one's CPU for one's own benefit and enjoyment is illegal.You could tell a drunk driver that 100+ miles an hour is dangerous and illegal, would he listen? I doubt. I put the overclockers and these automobile speeders in the same shoe
Aenslead
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Originally posted by: RobCur
90 percent of pc users don't overclock because it is basically stealing mhz from the manfacturers. If stealing is a good thing then I think you need to rob a bank so you can buy even better, faster cpu without the need to overclock
And no Jesus would never overclock, neither does he condones stealing in an impratical ways that is done without anyone's prior knowledge of the harms and side effects of pusing over the limits of a limited cpu clock in which you get what you pay for. You are sucking up more elecrtricity and killing your own health. If overclocking does not produce more heat and is not illegal in any means, I would have given it a GO decades ago.
Manufacturers would stop overclockers dead in their track if they could, they have tried but overclockers will always find some brilliant ways to get around it althought difficult and only the most thrilling overclockers are willing to take this kind of risky business of frying their component in the quest for more speed then necessary.
You could tell a drunk driver that 100+ miles an hour is dangerous and illegal, would he listen? I doubt. I put the overclockers and these automobile speeders in the same shoe
Jesus OCed!!!! He had one piece of bread and a couple of fish, and he did the best OC in the world!! He OC the bread and he was able to give it to everyone around him!! (Mathew 15 32-39)
Jesus OC's the water, and turned it into wine!! OMG!!
See: Jesus wants us to Overclock our processors.
And that doesn't mean Jesus stole the liquor store nor did he steal the baker for the bread, now, did he?
Is speeding illegal? Yes, does everyone go to jail? No. Illegal because it is not something that most people recommend doing. I want a cool running cpu not a hot rod that blow smokes out my computer doing harm to me giving off higher radioactive waste. The heat from the computer produced through electricity is not healthy. It is brain damaging and causes lung cancer in the long run. Overclockers have convinced quite a few people that it's good but their downside outweight the plus side if you've done enough research and have experienced enough BSOD. Just because you want to queeze 10-20 percent faster in performance. You won't win a trophy doing that, and there's no money involved.
FYI, I was the first human being to ever overclock starting with an AMD 133mhz to 160mhz at first I was like wow, then I realize it's only a little increase and it's just so much of a hassle. This is prior to the celeron 300a to 450a clocking frenzy era and so.
I have done many overclocking from K6-2 450 to 500, 500 to 550mhz none of it was worth the effort. It gets a lot hotter and it wasn't stable. I was crazy like everyone here I keep benchmarking and getting all excited just for a slight increase.
If overclocking is such a good thing and legal, everyone would be doing it. Hell even more people speed on the road then overclockers by 1,000,000:1
WOW.
Isn't their less transister count in a slower chip then a fast one? So how does overclocking makes up for that?
Proof?
Proof?
Once I found the stable and reasonable limit, I haven't had a BSOD since, for almost a year. The 30% increase in performance means something in Photoshop.
First, the story is not worth much. Second, most people don't care, don't know, and don't need to. This has nothing to do with o/cing being illegal, WHICH IT IS NOT. Thirdly, you have no idea about processors or how they are designed. A 2.8GHz P4 has the same number of transistors as a 3.4GHz P4, assuming both are based on the same core.
You still have not provided any proof - any documentation of any laws - that show that overclocking is illegal. Until you do so, you are totally full of "it." You are full, that it is flowing over and bursting at the seams. It leaks from every pore of your post. It smells of rottenness and decay. It is getting on my nerves. Provide proof, or shut up. Baseless speculation is useless and no one is going to believe you or share your opinion until you quit posting nothing but bull$%^&.
GuitarDaddy
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1. How in your wildest imagination can you compare overclocking to speeding in a car, and you even throw in driving drunk
that's the most ignorant argument I heard in a while. Overclocking does not endanger anyone, speeding does. Thats why speeding is illegal and OC is not2. You must be a doctor? "hot rod that blow smokes out my computer doing harm to me giving off higher radioactive waste. The heat from the computer produced through electricity is not healthy. It is brain damaging and causes lung cancer in the long run" Doctor Demento?
3. Another Priceless quote "FYI, I was the first human being to ever overclock starting with an AMD 133mhz to 160mhz" delusional? I was the first human to own a computer
and I overclocked it the first day! HAH4. Another gem " Isn't their less transister count in a slower chip then a fast one? " NO
GO BACK TO THE COMPOUND, DRINK THE PUNCH AND WAIT FOR THE SPACESHIP!
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