Is Obama right about the Republican Presidential candidates?

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Meh.

"He seemed to let loose at Monday's performance, which drew roughly 1,300 donors who paid between $500 and $10,000 a pop."

Different party, sos.
 

Indus

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Obama took a last jab at the Republican field over foreign policy, mocking claims by Donald Trump and others that relations with Russian President Vladimir Putin would improve if they were elected.

"And then it turns out they can't handle a bunch of CNBC moderators," Obama quipped, poking fun at candidates' complaints about last week's GOP presidential debate. "If you can't handle those guys, I don't think the Chinese and the Russians are going to be too worried about you."

Truth!
 

BoberFett

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Meh.

"He seemed to let loose at Monday's performance, which drew roughly 1,300 donors who paid between $500 and $10,000 a pop."

Different party, sos.

Thank god it was only "donors" and not corporations...

LOL, Democrats.

I love that that the thing thing they seem more focused on than anything else is how horrible Republicans are, as if that somehow changes how horrible Democrats are.
 

Eli

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Thank god it was only "donors" and not corporations...

LOL, Democrats.

I love that that the thing thing they seem more focused on than anything else is how horrible Republicans are, as if that somehow changes how horrible Democrats are.

But it's still relative.... The republicans in the spotlight may as well live on a different planet. How can you honestly say that you want to continue with our fossil fuel based infrastructure, that you want religious zealotry in our laws? A future with 1000ppm CO2, 8C of warming, where it's possible for people to still be denied birth control, abortion and assisted suicide, where LGBTQ people have no rights?

That's not the planet I want to live on. None of that is positive, so it stands to reason that good will triumph over evil. :awe:
 

bozack

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The dems main strategy is character attacks on their opponents, well that and free stuff by suggesting they will be enacting social justice against the wealthy when in reality they further burden the middle class, so these remarks and deflection by the great and mighty O are really not shocking.
 

bozack

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But it's still relative.... The republicans in the spotlight may as well live on a different planet. How can you honestly say that you want to continue with our fossil fuel based infrastructure, that you want religious zealotry in our laws? A future with 1000ppm CO2, 8C of warming, where it's possible for people to still be denied birth control, abortion and assisted suicide, where LGBTQ people have no rights?

That's not the planet I want to live on. None of that is positive, so it stands to reason that good will triumph over evil. :awe:

I was going to attempt to reply to this drivel with something meaningful but then decided I was wasting my time.

Seems like you have absorbed all of the lefts talking points without even bothering to consider what those on the right are concerned with such as punishing the providers of known methods of energy production which employ thousands in low income areas in favor of yet to be efficient methods which are deemed more green, you say zealotry whereas they say persecution, and the erosion of states rights in favor of a more powerful federal government with laws being made by the unelected.

So while you see none of the repubs message as positive many/most of them see nothing the current administration is touting as being very positive either.
 

HomerJS

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Thank god it was only "donors" and not corporations...

LOL, Democrats.

I love that that the thing thing they seem more focused on than anything else is how horrible Republicans are, as if that somehow changes how horrible Democrats are.

Pointing out opponents shortcomings is wholly owned by Dems? Where have you been for the last 7 years?

Care to comment about those candidate qualifications to deal with tough world crisis if they can't handle CNBC? Seems to be a valid issue.
 

Jhhnn

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The dems main strategy is character attacks on their opponents

Sweet freaking Jebsu. Repubs have become the party of rage & resentment, conducting a circus of character assassination thru trumped up scandals & wedge issues.

What is Birtherism if not character assassination? Benghazi? Fast & Furious? The rest?
 

feralkid

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The dems main strategy is character attacks on their opponents, well that and free stuff by suggesting they will be enacting social justice against the wealthy when in reality they further burden the middle class, so these remarks and deflection by the great and mighty O are really not shocking.

That's just how it looks from inside your bubble.

Or bottle.
 

theeedude

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If they can't handle a channel that worships money and low taxes, you gotta wonder.
 

MongGrel

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Take a look and judge for yourself. Personally I think he is dead on.

http://news.yahoo.com/broadway-obama-takes-bow-mocking-republicans-022417915--politics.html#


More tidbits from speech

Pretty classic.

The dems main strategy is character attacks on their opponents, well that and free stuff by suggesting they will be enacting social justice against the wealthy when in reality they further burden the middle class, so these remarks and deflection by the great and mighty O are really not shocking.

Thank god it was only "donors" and not corporations...

LOL, Democrats.

I love that that the thing thing they seem more focused on than anything else is how horrible Republicans are, as if that somehow changes how horrible Democrats are.

You two need to get a room or something.

They have been largely ignoring GOP crap for a long time.

Character attacks :p

"Bengahazi!"

"Swftboat !"

I should compile a character attack list, way to go Lee Atwater for teaching Karl Rove that crap decades ago.
 
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trenchfoot

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It's this thing where while you want to show your best side, as fake as it is, the candidates also have to hide their bad sides.

And moderators, being the inquisitive folks that they are, they like to get a well-rounded view of each candidate, including the side of the candidates that the candidates don't want exposed.

Therein lies the game that's being played to some extent. Now add in the need to boost ratings and all of the other agendas that are being pursued during these debates, and it's a small miracle that any of the REPUBLICAN debates can be conducted in a manner that's objective and thought provoking because they all have to lie through their teeth to win.

The Democrat debates? Much tamer by any metric that's applied to it (as far as the current election cycle for president is concerned).

On the one hand, the network hosts want entertainment value to boost ratings. The moderators want notoriety for being clever, witty and whatever else that boosts their own value, while the candidates, well, they want to win at the expense of every other candidate, and I guess they feel it's not fair for them that they feel they not only have to fight against their fellow rivals, they also have to deal with aggressive adversarial moderators and network hosts that are looking for their own moments of glory and fame.
 
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BoberFett

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But it's still relative.... The republicans in the spotlight may as well live on a different planet. How can you honestly say that you want to continue with our fossil fuel based infrastructure, that you want religious zealotry in our laws? A future with 1000ppm CO2, 8C of warming, where it's possible for people to still be denied birth control, abortion and assisted suicide, where LGBTQ people have no rights?

That's not the planet I want to live on. None of that is positive, so it stands to reason that good will triumph over evil. :awe:

So in your estimation, because you believe that Republicans are evil, then you reason that the Democrats who oppose them must be good?

How very simple of you.
 

BoberFett

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Pointing out opponents shortcomings is wholly owned by Dems? Where have you been for the last 7 years?

Care to comment about those candidate qualifications to deal with tough world crisis if they can't handle CNBC? Seems to be a valid issue.

Who said "wholly owned"? Stop projecting.
 

BoberFett

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You two need to get a room or something.

They have been largely ignoring GOP crap for a long time.

Character attacks :p

"Bengahazi!"

"Swftboat !"

I should compile a character attack list, way to go Lee Atwater for teaching Karl Rove that crap decades ago.

I think you're just jealous that I don't want to get a room with you, you sick freak.
 

retrospooty

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Obama is right in that statement, the economy was falling off the edge when he took office in Jan 2009... Not that Obama didnt make it worse, he did make it worse and slowed the recovery and sold off even more of our future with his record debt spending... All true, but the reps have a bigger problem that that. Their message is just lost.

Hilary is a career politician, as slimy as they come. She is a known, proven liar... Everyone knows this, even the dems know it and she will STILL win because the reps have no clear plan and no clear message other than hating gays, science, modern women and Latinos. That rhetoric fires up the base but it alienates the party from mainstream society. The reps have a serious problem with their message and an even worse problem in that they don't seem to understand that they have a serious problem. The backwards social values are ruining their chances to ever win a national election and they don't seem to realize it.
 
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Indus

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the reps have no clear plan and no clear message other than hating gays, science, modern women and Latinos, Asians and obviously African Americans.

Fixed. I know plenty of Asians who're put off by this and they like me were solidly against Bill Clinton and had voted for Bush 41 twice and again for Bob Dole and Bush 43 the first time and maybe second time around.

2004 and more so 2008 was a gigantic change year in how minorities were treated and if the writing wasn't on the wall then with Republicans in 2007 scuttling immigration reform, it really is now.