is nonstick coating deadly?

[dpopiz]

does nonstick coating become vapor of death if it is overheated with oil?

 

[Howard]

It's actually easier to overheat without oil.

Anyway, oil will smoke before the Teflon starts to break down.

http://www.abc.net.au/health/thepulse/s1576391.htm

 

[newmachineoverlord]

In short, yes, nonstick coating produces toxic vapors when heated. Adding oil may make it less dangerous by reducing hotspots, but teflon coated cookware will still kill birds at temperatures well below the smoke points of most fresh oils. While little evidence has been collected regarding the effect of the fumes on humans, you should never use any nonstick products in a building that has birds in it, or even near birds kept outdoors. Industry officials will say that it is safe for humans simply because it hasn't yet been proven to be dangerous, but it is unlikely to have been tested on humans in nearly the dosage people are often exposed to in real life under prolonged usage. At the least, all products with teflon on them should be required to have warning labels, but this is not yet a requirement, thus resulting in the needless deaths of thousands of pets per year.

http://www.ecomall.com/greenshopping/teflon4.htm

"New Teflon-lined Amana oven was used to bake biscuits at 325°F; all the owner?s baby parrots died. Four stovetop burners, underlined with Teflon-coated drip pans, were preheated in preparation for Thanksgiving dinner; 14 birds died within 15 minutes. "
"DuPont claims that its coating remains intact indefinitely at 500°F. Experiences of consumers whose birds have died from fumes generated at lower temperatures show that this is not the case. In one case researchers at the University of Missouri documented the death of about 1,000 broiler chicks exposed to offgas products from coated heat lamps at 396°F."

 

[chrisms]

Calphalon FTW

 

[nutxo]

Originally posted by: chrisms
Calphalon FTW

cast iron FTW. Natural non stick.

 

[Tom]

all your chickens are belong to us !

 

[Number1]

Originally posted by: newmachineoverlord
In short, yes, nonstick coating produces toxic vapors when heated. Adding oil may make it less dangerous by reducing hotspots, but teflon coated cookware will still kill birds at temperatures well below the smoke points of most fresh oils. While little evidence has been collected regarding the effect of the fumes on humans, you should never use any nonstick products in a building that has birds in it, or even near birds kept outdoors. Industry officials will say that it is safe for humans simply because it hasn't yet been proven to be dangerous, but it is unlikely to have been tested on humans in nearly the dosage people are often exposed to in real life under prolonged usage. At the least, all products with teflon on them should be required to have warning labels, but this is not yet a requirement, thus resulting in the needless deaths of thousands of pets per year.

http://www.ecomall.com/greenshopping/teflon4.htm

"New Teflon-lined Amana oven was used to bake biscuits at 325°F; all the owner?s baby parrots died. Four stovetop burners, underlined with Teflon-coated drip pans, were preheated in preparation for Thanksgiving dinner; 14 birds died within 15 minutes. "
"DuPont claims that its coating remains intact indefinitely at 500°F. Experiences of consumers whose birds have died from fumes generated at lower temperatures show that this is not the case. In one case researchers at the University of Missouri documented the death of about 1,000 broiler chicks exposed to offgas products from coated heat lamps at 396°F."

:disgust:

 

[randomlinh]

Originally posted by: nutxo

Originally posted by: chrisms
Calphalon FTW

cast iron FTW. Natural non stick.

I am NOT cooking w/ an 8qt cast iron pot

 

[SagaLore]

Originally posted by: Number1
:disgust:

Do you have something to say, or just practicing your emoticon skills?

 

[herbiehancock]

Originally posted by: Number1


:disgust:

What's even odder is the fact that we own several Teflon pans, mostly oven-oriented but a couple of saucepans, and we have two cockateils and a nanday conure. All have mysteriously survived repeated cooking episodes with all the pans on the stove and in the oven. Imagine that!!!


Interesting how hte OP left out the last few sentences in his BS post.......how DuPont chemists "have concluded that polymer fume fever in humans is possible at 662°F, a temperature easily exceeded when a pan is preheated on a burner or placed beneath a broiler, or in a self-cleaning oven."

Now, I don't honestly know what stove the DANGER TEFLON website owners use, but we actually have measured temps of our cooking.....esp. with making fudge (the ingredients have to be kept at exact boiling temps. for a set period of time) and I cannot remember ever reaching 662F even when playing around with the highest heat setting on the stove.

And our oven rarely reaches higher than the temp. that's dialed in....like 350 or 425. Who in the heck bakes at 662F anyway? True, self-cleaning ovens during their cleaning cycle routinely reach very high temps, but then again, who leaves a Teflon-lined pan inside the oven during cleaning?

Pure bogus and fear-mongering.

 

[lizardth]

for the love of god don't eat it!!!

 

[spidey07]

Originally posted by: randomlinh
I am NOT cooking w/ an 8qt cast iron pot

You should. They're wonderful and have excellent heat control.

http://www.lecreuset.com/usa/products/guide.php?range_id=2

 

[HardcoreRobot]

its deadly to stickiness

and to humans if you try to stuff a whole pan down your throat at once

 

[AStar617]

deadly to birds, yes... none in my house

 

[uberman]

I hope not. I've got 2 that are flaking off. I really need to replace them.

I did replace one a while back. A new teflon pan is sure nice, no sticking.

 

[IGBT]

Originally posted by: nutxo

Originally posted by: chrisms
Calphalon FTW

cast iron FTW. Natural non stick.

..ok. so where do I gets a cast iron wok?? I've never heard of such a thing. How bout stainless steel? A cast iron wok woud be fuskin heavy.

 

[CorCentral]

So with any of the Teflon coated pans, it's bad if you use a metal fork to stir, mixing the metal flakes with food and eat them?

I should've been dead 20 years ago then **LMAO**

EDIT: Steel pans are crap! You can taste the steel in your food......... It's like cutting a brick of cheese with a *FRESHLY CLEAN* steel blade. You can taste the damn metal in the cheese!

 

[d3n]

It will kill a bird off pretty darn quickly.

 

[IGBT]

Text

16 inch Traditional Cast Iron Wok

..well they make em. Anybody use one of these?? does everything stick to it even after seasonong?

 

[Pepsi90919]

yes, eat up

 

[akshatp]

It could be if someone took the pan it is attached to and smacked you upside the head with it real hard!

 

[Howard]

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: randomlinh
I am NOT cooking w/ an 8qt cast iron pot

They ... have excellent heat control.

No, no they don't.

 

[Howard]

Originally posted by: IGBT

Originally posted by: nutxo

Originally posted by: chrisms
Calphalon FTW

cast iron FTW. Natural non stick.

..ok. so where do I gets a cast iron wok?? I've never heard of such a thing. How bout stainless steel? A cast iron wok woud be fuskin heavy.

Cast iron woks are cheap and plentiful at your local Asian supermarket. They aren't that heavy since they're quite thin, about 2mm. Stainless steel woks suffer from the same stickiness as other steel cookware, and are harder to clean (not good, especially for a wok).

EDIT: After seasoning, they'll behave about the same way as any other piece of cast iron. Carbon steel can also be seasoned, but the seasoning is not as durable as it is on cast iron.

 

[Howard]

Originally posted by: CorCentral
So with any of the Teflon coated pans, it's bad if you use a metal fork to stir, mixing the metal flakes with food and eat them?

First, you should never use metal utensils on Teflon. Second, Teflon isn't a metal. Third, Teflon is fairly inert and will not cause problems if you ingest it.

EDIT: Steel pans are crap! You can taste the steel in your food......... It's like cutting a brick of cheese with a *FRESHLY CLEAN* steel blade. You can taste the damn metal in the cheese!

That's a strange problem you have. Are you talking about stainless steel?

 

[imported_Tick]

Originally posted by: Howard

Originally posted by: CorCentral
So with any of the Teflon coated pans, it's bad if you use a metal fork to stir, mixing the metal flakes with food and eat them?

First, you should never use metal utensils on Teflon. Second, Teflon isn't a metal. Third, Teflon is fairly inert and will not cause problems if you ingest it.

I would go so far as to say that teflon is amazingly inert. They make chemical storage containers out of teflon.