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Is Newcastle 3400+ an oudated processor?

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mettleh3d

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Lately on newegg I've been seeing basically only socket 939s (2800-3800). Anyway, these are all venice or Clawhammer cores, and Newcastle I read was outdated and obsolete.
I bought my proc (newcastle 3400+ s754) only a few weeks ago, and I find out its not the ideal proc, a 2800+ woulda been more logical.

Am I making any sense here? Thanks
 
Yeah, it's definitely not outdated. The Athlon 64 3400+, whether Newcastle or Clawhammer, is a very powerful CPU. Why would you think it's somehow worse than a 2800+? Or even a socket-939 3000+ or 3200+?
 
Well ok, maybe not the proc itself, but the mobo. Arent the new dual cores s939? I figure, s939 would be a more future ready choice and treat 754s like AGP cards.
 
Originally posted by: mettleh3d
Well ok, maybe not the proc itself, but the mobo. Arent the new dual cores s939? I figure, s939 would be a more future ready choice and treat 754s like AGP cards.
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I've always felt that upgrade-ready components are over-rated. Get what you need right now, and nothing more. If you need something else down the line, you may need to get a new motherboard, but it's really not a big deal. Just sell off your old board, and you shouldn't be out any more money than you would have to spend on a socket-939 board, now.

In the mean time, you're getting more performance for your money with socket-754.
 
seriously... if you are going to upgrade to a dualcore in the future (when you need it), buying a socket 939 motherboard along with the processor isn't going to make it THAT much more expensive... (at least thats what i tell myself)
 
Some people will tell you to avoid Newcastles today because they can't overclock as well as the newer 90nm cores (Venice, San Diego, etc). But really there's nothing wrong with them, nor are they outdated yet.

Don't worry about it.
 
Originally posted by: odbasucanc
seriously... if you are going to upgrade to a dualcore in the future (when you need it), buying a socket 939 motherboard along with the processor isn't going to make it THAT much more expensive... (at least thats what i tell myself)
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Really? Let's take a look....

socket 754 board -- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813135194
socket 939 board -- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813152052

total prices (CPU, cooler and motherboard)...

$200 Athlon 64 3000+ (s754) retail -- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103486
$244 Athlon 64 3200+ (s754) retail -- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103483
$253 Athlon 64 3400+ (s754) OEM&HSF -- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103488 & http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16835182019
$362 Athlon 64 3700+ (s754) retail -- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103464

$218 Athlon 64 3000+ (s939) retail -- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103537
$263 Athlon 64 3200+ (s939) retail -- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103535
$338 Athlon 64 3500+ (s939) retail -- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103514
$401 Athlon 64 3700+ (s939) retail -- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103539

So, not only is socket-939 more expensive, but you can actually get a s754 Athlon 64 3400+ for less than a s939 Athlon 64 3200+.
 
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