Is Nero fiddling while Rome burns?

Moonbeam

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When you look at the contents of these three links I can’t help but wonder. It seems to me that old school Democrats are so locked into the system they don’t grasp the danger that the deranged madness that Republicans represent. Can the US Marshals be used to prevent a resurrection threat or is it more likely they would side with those trying to overthrow Biden. It is incredible this shit is allowed to fester and poison more deeply more and more minds.
 

woolfe9998

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Kind of buried the lead there, which is that Michael Flynn just committed a very serious felony.

Whoever knowingly or willfully advocates, abets, advises, or teaches the duty, necessity, desirability, or propriety of overthrowing or destroying the government of the United States or the government of any State, Territory, District or Possession thereof, or the government of any political subdivision therein, by force or violence, or by the assassination of any officer of any such government;

Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both, and shall be ineligible for employment by the United States or any department or agency thereof, for the five years next following his conviction.

 
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Can the US Marshals be used to prevent a resurrection threat or is it more likely they would side with those trying to overthrow Biden.


"The United States Marshals Service (USMS) is a federal law enforcement agency in the United States. The USMS is a bureau within the U.S. Department of Justice, operating under the direction of the Attorney General,[3] but serves as the enforcement arm of the United States federal courts to ensure the effective operation of the judiciary and integrity of the Constitution."

 

woolfe9998

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All this guy has learned is that as long as Trump is around, he can apparently get away with sedition.

Trump cannot protect him now.

He needs to be prosecuted for this. This kind of shit cannot be tolerated. He's a retired army general making a public speech advocating the violent overthrow of the government in DC. That is a major crime.

I expect to be hearing from DoJ soon about this.
 

hal2kilo

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Trump cannot protect him now.

He needs to be prosecuted for this. This kind of shit cannot be tolerated. He's a retired army general making a public speech advocating the violent overthrow of the government in DC. That is a major crime.

I expect to be hearing from DoJ soon about this.
Think about it. That ass, was at one point head of the DIA. He was literally drummed out of that job because he couldn't keep his anti arab/muslim comments to himself during the Obama administration. He been on an anti-American tear since. I sure hope the DOJ comes a calling, and this time, he will get a chance on his own to think about things for several years.
 
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woolfe9998

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Think about it. That ass, was at one point head of the DIA. He was literally drummed out of that job because he couldn't keep his anti arab/muslim comments to himself during the Obama administration. He been on an anti-American tear since. I sure hope the DOJ comes a calling, and this time, he will get a chance on his own to think about things for several years.

It's one thing that these maggots are running around falsely claiming that the election was stolen from Trump. It's another when they cross the line to advocating violent overthrow of the government. If we tolerate this kind of thing from one of our retired generals, then we don't deserve the democracy we have.

If we don't hear anything publicly about this, I'm going to report it myself to make sure there is at least some follow up.

The media is reporting this like "look, Flynn just advocated a violent coup, what a dick" as if they are clueless about the legal implications. Idiots.
 

nickqt

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When you look at the contents of these three links I can’t help but wonder. It seems to me that old school Democrats are so locked into the system they don’t grasp the danger that the deranged madness that Republicans represent. Can the US Marshals be used to prevent a resurrection threat or is it more likely they would side with those trying to overthrow Biden. It is incredible this shit is allowed to fester and poison more deeply more and more minds.
At some point, hopefully before it's too late (but not likely), a lot of liberals are going to realize that Idiocracy wasn't a funny movie, it was a semi-accurate description of the United States. It's a bunch of CHAD Incels (yes it's a contradiction, which is why it perfectly describes US Conservatives) walking around COSTCO open-carrying an AR-15 to prove they aren't scared of pedophile Democrats or whatever. Meanwhile, the climate is at times literally on fire or flooded, with available technology and knowledge shunned because, well, pedophile Democrats are in favor of it.

FOX NEWS built this fucker out of the spare parts of various right-wing conspiracy/special interest groups over the past 25 years, and it's about all we can do as sane Americans to just keep as many Republicans out reach of the Federal levers of power...which of course is hard when State Republicans are currently doing everything they can to wire up the Dead Mans Switch with election laws designed to allow Republicans to nullify results they don't like. That's it, that's the "hope". Because not only are Republicans the enemies of most sane Americans, shitbag fascist wannabes like Manchin, or SHOW-ME-THE-MONEY Democrats like Sinema allow the Republican Party to ostensibly control the Senate because of "Bipartisanship", a fucking joke of a concept when one side has policies, and the other side only cares about getting the other side to submit to whatever they say is required for them to not be murdered as enemies.

If the only thing that really happens in the first 2 years of the Biden administration is a stimulus bill that should have happened 6 months earlier, and then nothing, there's no reason to think that the Republicans won't retake the House and Senate. Then it's just an event or two and it's a Cotton/Hawley 2025 Administration, with Gaetz as head of the Department of Homeland Security, and Taylor-Greene running the NSA. We can let Erik Prince run the CIA. By god, if you are to the left of Genghis Khan and don't own a firearm, it's pretty much your own god damn fault when they start the MAGAFICATION OF AMERICA that includes the re-education camps Conservatives have been fantasizing about putting YOU in like YOU PUT THEM IN when YOU legalized Gay Marriage and Communism and Shariah Law and whatever else they've been trained to believe. When it comes time to murder YOU, it'll all be compartmentalized into minds that have been trained by FOX NEWS to compartmentalize reality...to Make America Great Again.

Of course, I'm probably just a lunatic far-left gun nutter who is secretly being paid by a cabal run by Soros, Putin, and the Comet Pizzeria Pedophile Ring, depending on what part of the "left-right" spectrum you typically hang out on. But that's the trajectory. How people can get so bogged down into petty details while missing the trajectory doesn't surprise me, but then again, when you study history and keep track of current events, very few turns of events should come as a complete surprise.

/uncomfortable rant
 

pmv

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Michael Flynn, who served as President Donald Trump's national security advisor, told a crowd at a QAnon conference in Dallas this weekend that the US should have a coup like the one in Myanmar.

Will it involve a video of an attractive woman with impressive dance moves? This may affect my opinion on his proposal.

Also, having googled that cited act 2385, seems it's what I've always heard called "The Smith Act" (I remember it being mentioned by far-leftists of my acquaintance, for obvious reasons). It was largely used against communists in the 1940s and 50s, no? Has it ever been used since?

Wiki also says at least some prosecutions under it were reversed on the basis that it was "unconstitutional". Is it still usable?
 

Jaskalas

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Trumpers were openly demanding a military coup back in January. Trump himself didn't have the balls to do it.

We need to clip those who still push for it. Doing nothing is not an option. We need to send a message, same as any foreign adversary. That there will be consequences, that they will pay a bloody price if they choose to take violence. If we do not marshal together and push back, they will feel emboldened and imagine they can just roll over us.

This is a time for red lines, and Flynn clearly crossed it.
 
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woolfe9998

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Will it involve a video of an attractive woman with impressive dance moves? This may affect my opinion on his proposal.

Also, having googled that cited act 2385, seems it's what I've always heard called "The Smith Act" (I remember it being mentioned by far-leftists of my acquaintance, for obvious reasons). It was largely used against communists in the 1940s and 50s, no? Has it ever been used since?

More recent cases are mentioned in this wiki:


The most recent one mentioned was from 2010 (white supremacists). I strongly suspect there are more recent ones, however. There is an entire law firm in Georgia which specializes in defending people against this sort of charge.

Wiki also says at least some prosecutions under it were reversed on the basis that it was "unconstitutional". Is it still usable?

It probably depends on what exactly was said in those cases.
 

trenchfoot

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Maybe, but I can't think of a single reason why not. It's a clear cut case.


Political considerations often seems to turn things that's clear cut into a muddy puddle fraught with contradictory hypocritical speech and deed. Throw personal agendas into the mix and what we get is what seems like SOP up on the Hill.
 

1prophet

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Is Nero fiddling while Rome burns?

Most certainly, the next thing after the fiddling ends will be to blame the fires on them deplorable brain-defective conservatives, better round them up and throw them to the lions as punishment.
 
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sandorski

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Is Nero fiddling while Rome burns?

Most certainly, the next thing after the fiddling ends will be to blame the fires on them deplorable brain-defective conservatives, better round them up and throw them to the lions as punishment.

Sorry, the Libs/Immigrants/non-Whites/LGBT are the ones blamed for everything.
 
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Is Nero fiddling while Rome burns?

Most certainly, the next thing after the fiddling ends will be to blame the fires on them deplorable brain-defective conservatives, better round them up and throw them to the lions as punishment.
I mean since they are the ones advocating for the violent overthrow of the government wouldn’t that make sense?
 

kage69

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Is Nero fiddling while Rome burns?

Most certainly, the next thing after the fiddling ends will be to blame the fires on them deplorable brain-defective conservatives, better round them up and throw them to the lions as punishment.

Yes, you idiots are the victims. Always.

Damn dirty leftists hurting people's feels just because traitors want to overthrow a democratically elected government. So much for the tolerant left.
 

woolfe9998

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Of course Flynn is back peddling today, but curiously, he is doing it without attempting to explain what he actually meant by the answer he gave.


His lawyer, Sidney Powell, claimed the media had "grossly distorted" Flynn's comments, when they quoted him directly. How dare they quote what he actually said.
 

fskimospy

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Of course Flynn is back peddling today, but curiously, he is doing it without attempting to explain what he actually meant by the answer he gave.


His lawyer, Sidney Powell, claimed the media had "grossly distorted" Flynn's comments, when they quoted him directly. How dare they quote what he actually said.
This is a pretty standard Trumpkin tactic. Say something shitty and when you face a backlash lie and claim you never said it, no matter how incontrovertible the evidence. This is because Trumpkins simply don't care about truth or lies.
 

emperus

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This is just another episode of Democrats being weak. The four star general, former NSA to Trump, who was convicted then pardoned by Trump for seditious behavior mouthed that we should have a coup in the US and it's mainly meh..