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Is my PIII-700E faster than Cel566@850?!?!?!

AngelOfDeath

Golden Member
I have this PIII-700E and have tought about buying a cel566 and oc it to 850, but is it faster/performing better than my PIII-700E?. Tom's Hardware says that a cely is about 60-80% of the performance of its bigger brother. So a cel566@850 would at best give me 680mhz which isn't as good as my PIII.

Plz give me some advise 🙂

How about giving me some bench with your cely if any of you have one. My setup is 1024x768x32x32 with all textures etc. set at highest plus lightmap and Trilinear. Ofcourse marks on walls are on. This gave me an fps at 73.1 in demo001. To compare the results it would be best if you had a Geforce DDR. But ofcourse post any way 🙂

I need to know 'cause I really would like to spend the money on other things if it's possible 😛
 
Better yet, the 700E is virtually guarranteed to hit 133MHz, that would be a killer to the Celerons.
 
Hey Dave...

No way in hell... im thinking of selling my 566@850 and buy a 700E..
hell a OC'd P3(cumine of ocurse) 550 would be faster than this in many cases.
 
I have a cel533@896 on a ax6bc board and a P3550e@770 on a ax63pro via board and I run a simple cputest that I downloaded that gives me a slight edge to the P3. The test doesn't do video, just cpu and memory and I don't notice any difference except in operating temps. The cel2 runs 22c tops and the p3 30c.
 
btw q3 is prolly not the best way to compare processors....
Maybe Quake2 with a software renderer ?
Seeing how u got a geforce and i got an ATI AIW128 PCI card..

BTW.... what converter card r u using ?
 
Hey all and tx for answering to my post 🙂.

One of my friends have a system with the Cel566@850 and a Geforce DDR as I. We tested q3 with the same setting as I and it turned out that my system gave and approximate 10fps more. So no way I'm gonna buy a celly.

I've tried the 133fsb but it won't make it 🙁. But okey 115fsb I'll do without a glitch. My PIII is the old stepping 'cause I bought it a month or so before they released the cB0 stepping 🙁. But Puff will help me sometime I think 🙂 so hopefully we will reach the limit soon 😛.

Hey PuffC 🙂 I'm using an ASUS slot1 converter.

Cya all tx

AoD
 
LXi, I just bought a 700E today. And it won't do 933 🙁

700E is definately faster than Celeron 850. I tested it...!

Well, I'm still happy with my 550@733 on Asus CUSL2 😉
 
heh.. yea.. lets get around to that.. ping me tomorrow or sunday ?

btw my 850 *is* stable... were all along.. a few test runs of 3dmark2000 at stock speed made it crash too... every thing else runs without a glitch... including 48 hours non-stop diablo2 (heh)..

It seem like the ATI drivers for my gfx card has issues (no stupid remarks please😉...

http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview.cfm?catid=28&threadid=173006

ill cut/paste a post from Thorn who's been a tremendous help, source of nfo when it comes to these converters.... here's his post:

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Ok, I've been running tests on the BH6 with a MS-6905Master. Yes, I've been using the newset BIOS for the BH6 (R1.02), I updated the BIOS (QM) before I started the initial tests with the Asus slotket. This brought about some very interesting results... BTW, when I say stable I mean stable. The system is capable of running anything without any errors. I tested with Prime95 and Q3A for several hours each.

MSI MS-6905Master

850MHz (8.5x100) - 1.70v; Stable
876MHz (8.5x103) - 1.75v; Stable
952MHz (8.5x112) - 1.80v-1.90v; Will Post but is unstable, will load Win98 at 1.90v but crashes soon after... not temperature related (I'm using an Alpha PAL35 w/ silver compound).

Asus S370

850MHz (8.5x100) - 1.70v; Stable
876MHz (8.5x103) - 1.80v; Stable
952MHz (8.5x112) - 1.85v-1.90v; Will Post but is unstable, will not load Win98 at all.

So, we see that both slotkets seem to perform about the same (with a slight edge going to the MSI). I believe the MSI would be capable of running at 892 (at 1.80v or 1.85v) if the 105MHz FSB were available on the BH6. The Asus S370 would probably do well also but at a higher voltage (maybe 1.85v or 1.90v). At these voltages though very aggressive cooling would be a must, maybe with a peltier/water setup or just an awesome air cooler (high-end Alpha or GW). I'm not sure a GORB could handle it.

Abit BM6

850MHz (8.5x100) - 1.60v; Stable
876MHz (8.5x103) - 1.65v; Stable
892MHz (8.5x105) - 1.65v; Stable
952MHz (8.5x112) - Will test tomorrow when I have more time and can swap in better SDRAM.

Big difference, draw your own conclusions. But I'm leaning towards the BM6 being a more stable solution (with this CPU at least). Like anything else in elecrtonics when you shorten leads you get better signal. This very well may be the case.

I'll post results at 112MHz FSB on the BM6 tomorrow. Stay tuned!


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10 not 9, 10 not 11. -Bahir
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Conclusion: U just may have more luck with a msi 6905 master edition converter... i have one, maybe we could test it ? depends on how stubborn the chip is..

l8r.
 
CyruzTheGreat, Just a question.
How did you get 1.8-1.9 v's with the BH6. When I flashed to the new BIOS, and poped in my new celermine, The highest option I could pick was 1.7v's.

I had to flash it to an older BIOS that didnt support the new celermine cores, to pick 1.8v's.

Is there anyway I can use the newest BIOS, AND have a good load of voltage options?

Thanks.
 
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