Is my graphics card about to die? (Update: RMA woes, excess solder on back of card?)

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Techhog

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No need for the condescending attitude. I further explained my reasoning a few posts above. Perhaps the pcb was of lower quality, perhaps the solder. when my power blacked out my card wasn't a paper weight. it kept going for another month without much issue. Further more, I really have no evidence that the power surge actually did the damage, the card could of been damaged from something else entirely. The only reason I question the quality of the 7950 is because no other part of my PC failed. My corsair gs750 psu didn't fail, my 3570k didn't fail my asrock z77 extreme 4 didn't fail, my monitor didn't fail, my fridge didn't fail but my 7950 did. slowly and painfully. I mean, you would think it would of been the PSU failing considering it was plugged into the wall. I usually go amd because price/performance but now I'm jaded.

All I'm basically saying is I'm not going AMD again because my card died within 4 months. argue that logic please.


"""I'm from fallv river and we so are lol. I've converted a few friends and built gaming pc's for them. It's true that could of happened with any card but in ny unbiased oppinion. Nvidia is walking at normal speed and not breaking a sweat. While amd hit the ground running and giving it everything they got and yet they both travel the same speed. I got to believe this has a predispotion On the lifetime of the card. like how an overclocked cpu is bound to die sooner. Nothing else failed on my pc. Or in the house in general. It may have been a combination of power surge and unstable ram. It used the same copper block to cool the gpu and ram meaning that the ram would also be running 80c+ and they may have failed seeing how it wasn't hynx ram but of lower quality. Either way in sadly now stuck with a 660 not ti for now. On the plus side I did discover shadowplay. So the glass is half full I guess. :-("""


I've been doing some research and I found out that some 7950s vrm overheat badly. In my case, the vrm didnt have a temperature probe so the GPU couldn't actively monitor vrm temps and adjust the fan accordingly. HIS has stated they felt the vrm temps are cool enough that they didn't need it. Some sapphire cards hard the same issue heres the link. And this guy Belial seems to know a ton about the AMD 7950 and its a good read. link
"Recently companies have been using a cheapo 7950 pcb made by a chinese PCB company known for making cheaper versions of cards called Yeston, that has a weaker power phase with LFPAKs, is more prone to VRM blow-outs and coil whine, and has a much lower ASIC. However the worst, is that these PCBs use a no-name PWM chip instead of CHiL, meaning you won't get any VRM temperatures, amperages, or wattage readings."

Well, i do have to admit that, lately, both my VRM and core temps have been 5-10C higher than I'd expect at stock. Core is staying below 70 though, and VRMs below 80, so it's not like it's anywhere near enough to cause damage.

Also, my ASIC is 70.8%
 
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Well, i do have to admit that, lately, both my VRM and core temps have been 5-10C higher than I'd expect at stock. Core is staying below 70 though, and VRMs below 80, so it's not like it's anywhere near enough to cause damage.

Is it possible that when you had the card overclocked, the vrm passed 90 and u started getting some weird semi lingering artifacts? I would keep an eye on it but I'm sure your card will be fine. I have the worst luck haha. My card didn't have the luxury, the vrm was impossible to monitor. I did get it for cheep though but i should of got the dam asus at the time.
 

Techhog

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Is it possible that when you had the card overclocked, the vrm passed 90 and u started getting some weird semi lingering artifacts? I would keep an eye on it but I'm sure your card will be fine. I have the worst luck haha. My card didn't have the luxury, the vrm was impossible to monitor. I did get it for cheep though but i should of got the dam asus at the time.

It never hit 90 afaik. The highest I know of was 83C. Even 90C wouldn't be damaging though.
 
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All I'm basically saying is I'm not going AMD again because my card died within 4 months. argue that logic please.

There's nothing to argue, that isn't even logic.
 

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Its likely to go broke in 2 to 6 weeks, depending on how much you use it, etc...

I say go RMA it and don't tell them about overclocking it. Make sure you uninstall any and all "overclocking" software from your computer and clean temporary files and stuff with Ccleaner.

When overclocking don't push the card to max, getting say 1200MHz over 1170MHz is useless. Also don't try to increase the wattage, unless you really have too. Getting a 100MHz improved clock over the default clock is super great and you shouldn't push for more. So there is no need to increase wattage just to get 50MHz more when you already got a 100MHz increase.

Also ALWAYS use custom profile when overclocking and set it according to temperatures.

I usually set it to 100% fan speed at 70c temperatures.
 

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Its likely to go broke in 2 to 6 weeks, depending on how much you use it, etc...

I say go RMA it and don't tell them about overclocking it. Make sure you uninstall any and all "overclocking" software from your computer and clean temporary files and stuff with Ccleaner.

When overclocking don't push the card to max, getting say 1200MHz over 1170MHz is useless. Also don't try to increase the wattage, unless you really have too. Getting a 100MHz improved clock over the default clock is super great and you shouldn't push for more. So there is no need to increase wattage just to get 50MHz more when you already got a 100MHz increase.

Also ALWAYS use custom profile when overclocking and set it according to temperatures.

I usually set it to 100% fan speed at 70c temperatures.

I'd rather have a weaker card than 100% fan speed lol
 
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There's nothing to argue, that isn't even logic.

Ohh, well thank you for your wonderful, insightful and logical input. Thank you for reading what I had to say. Thank you again for understanding I paid for a product and for understanding I work hard for my money and for understanding how someone could be upset. I appreciate how you viewed the link I posted above pertaining to 7950 failures and questionable quality control. I contacted HIS 3 times with no response sooooo yeah. My card died within 4 months never used bitcoin or anything so ya I'm being logical. I've been reading these forms since 2008. Just because I have 24 comments doesn't mean I don't have my share of PC knowledge. I tend to sit on the outskirts and read/absorb. I have a corsair air540 so my GPU had more airflow than it could handle. I was intending on going crossfire(Crying).
 
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Techhog

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Ohh, well thank you for your wonderful, insightful and logical input. Thank you for reading what I had to say. Thank you again for understanding I paid for a product and for understanding I work hard for my money and for understanding how someone could be upset. I appreciate how you viewed the link I posted above pertaining to 7950 failures and questionable quality control. I contacted HIS 3 times with no response sooooo yeah. My card died within 4 months never used bitcoin or anything so ya I'm being logical. I've been reading these forms since 2008. Just because I have 24 comments doesn't mean I don't have my share of PC knowledge. I tend to sit on the outskirts and read/absorb. I have a corsair air540 so my GPU had more airflow than it could handle. I was intending on going crossfire(Crying).

You had a lemon. It happens. Sounds like HIS was being crappy however.

Face it, you fell into the perception trap.
 
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You had a lemon. It happens. Sounds like HIS was being crappy however.

Face it, you fell into the perception trap.

I did unfortunately have a lemon. Also, I'm not saying PEOPLE DONT GET AMD!!!! I'm saying I'm not going AMD anymore. Keep up updated too and if it dies use it as wall art :p. Thats what I'm doing now.
 
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So, after confirming that Thief has graphical issues after an hour of playing despite temps for everything staying below 70C, I decided that I should RMA. However, I'm having two issues:

1.) Powercolor's site is rejecting my serial number
2.) When I looked on the back of the card for said serial number (after voiding my motherboard's warranty by breaking the retention clip on the PCIe slot accidentally), I was reminded of something that i noticed back when i got the card; there's excess solder on the back of the card. Is it possible that this is what ended up snowballing into my current problem?
 

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btw, GPU-Z is a great program 10/10
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Well, I was just reminded of this thread, so I want to know if that solder might have had an effect. I can take a picture is necessary. Also, Powercolor didn't respond to my email about the RMA form not accepting my serial number. :/