he sais he hates the ad were that guy is spinning in his car and thinking about 4-motion because "4-motion is the same exact thing as anti lock brakes" im like hell no and explain it and he sais no its the same thing it helps you from not crashing so its the same thing. i think hes full of him self. YOU CANT PROVE HIM WRONG. he will sit there and say your the stupid one. grrrrrrrr
is my friend a crack head
- Thread starter Xionide
- Start date
o geze. car newbies 
I dunno wtf it does but its not even nearly the same thing as anti lock brakes
Anti lock brakes is self explanitory!@ What an idiot. I dont know which one wins, this one or the one about double clutching and the 4th pedal. :Q
I should be going to sleep now considering its almost 4 and i have a class at 10
I dunno wtf it does but its not even nearly the same thing as anti lock brakes
I should be going to sleep now considering its almost 4 and i have a class at 10
What's 4 motion? Never heard of it before. Also, can someone explain a hemi engine. (briefly) And, wasn't there a movie where they use the term double clutching incorrectly? Some stupid race movie where they said it to make it seem cool. (Like all those computer hacker movies... "We need to infultrate their firewall so the node don't detect the retrace of my graphically built worm virii.")
BTW, I don't need links for the above things, wouldn't be able to look at them here at work. Just some brief explaniations if possible. Thx
BTW, I don't need links for the above things, wouldn't be able to look at them here at work. Just some brief explaniations if possible. Thx
Hemi - short answer - the shape of the combustion chamber in the cylinder head
double clutching - maybe "The Fast and The Furious" ?
double clutching - maybe "The Fast and The Furious" ?
Easy to prove.
Find an older Subaru WITH AWD and WITHOUT ABS.
Slam on the brakes. Note the results (i.e. skidding, no control).
Find a newer Passat WITH AWD and WITH ABS (Because we all have newer Passats just lying around in our driveways, right?).
Slam on the brakes. Note the results (i.e. no skidding, can actually steer while braking).
Find an older Subaru WITH AWD and WITHOUT ABS.
Slam on the brakes. Note the results (i.e. skidding, no control).
Find a newer Passat WITH AWD and WITH ABS (Because we all have newer Passats just lying around in our driveways, right?).
Slam on the brakes. Note the results (i.e. no skidding, can actually steer while braking).
StageLeft
No Lifer
- Sep 29, 2000
- 70,150
- 5
- 0
Hehe. Last year I was home and I was with my brother in my mom's 2000 imprezza. It was storming like a slut and there was a big parking lot just covered in snow. I played at being Colin Mcrae for a while skidding and sliding everywhere. After a while the ABS sensor went off and the car lost its ability to apply ABS. I asked a subaru mechanic about it and he said that snow had probably got caught up in somewhere. The problem went away after a while
The car definitely stopped quicker with the ABS :QAnd this is supposed to prove that it's the AWD that keeps you in control and not the anti-lock brakes? You'd be a lousy lawyer.
Uh, no. If you could "read" you would have noticed that voodoo's theoretical "friend" thinks that AWD and ABS are the same thing.
And this would that the 2 are obviously not the same.
I can't believe I had to spell that out to someone.
Commercial says: "4motion keeps your car from spinning"
You reply with: "AWD doesn't keep your car from spinning, but Anti-lock brakes do keep your car from spinning"
Friend replies with "therefore, 4motion is ABS and not AWD"
Your argument is retarded.
Are you voodoo's friend? You can play idiot all you want. The argument is valid in showing that ABS and 4-Motion are not the same thing. In fact, back to your reading skills or lack thereof, you'll note the original post doesn't mention AWD, but I don't feel like typing out "4-motion" when AWD is much faster.
The kid says that 4-motion (AWD) and ABS are the same thing, not that he's unsure if 4-motion refers to AWD or ABS.
Further, you quote (paraphrase?) me as saying "AWD doesn't keep your car from spinning, but Anti-lock brakes do keep your car from spinning, " which I never said anything like that at all. In fact, my tongue-in-cheek "proof" was just about slamming on the brakes and had nothing to do with spinning.
Do you have your garage properly ventilated? I'm starting to think something is affecting your brain.
StageLeft
No Lifer
- Sep 29, 2000
- 70,150
- 5
- 0
This thread is getting way too complex.
ABS: Resists braking lockup and aids with stopping distances and brake control
4-motion: Allows for power to go to all 4 wheels instead of only front two or rear two.
They aren't the same and are not even close to the same. Voodoo's friend needs to know this!
ABS: Resists braking lockup and aids with stopping distances and brake control
4-motion: Allows for power to go to all 4 wheels instead of only front two or rear two.
They aren't the same and are not even close to the same. Voodoo's friend needs to know this!
No, the argument is valid in showing that AWD drive and ABS are not the same thing. Unless of course your old subaru has 4-motion on it.
You're the one who brought AWD into this. You're right, his friend said "4-motion is the same exact thing as anti lock brakes" and never mentioned AWD. Why then do you think that comparing a car that says "AWD" on it to a car with antilock brakes is going to do any good? The guy did not say that AWD was the same thing as antilock brakes, he said that 4-motion = ABS.
You're right, the kid thinks 4-motion is ABS. He never mentioned anything about AWD. The kid's point of view is implied as:
4 motion is a braking system
ABS is a braking system
AWD could either be a braking system or a 4 wheel drive system. We don't know.
You're right: you didn't mention spinning. You mentioned a loss of control of the car. I related that back to the original commercial. You don't think that slamming on the brakes on an icy road in a car w/o ABS could cause spinning?
The kid thinks 4-Motion is a fancy name for ABS. You tell him that AWD is not ABS.
Now, if you had bothered to convince the kid that 4-Motion was a form of AWD, your point would be valid. However, voodoo33500 already said that the guy thinks 4-Motion is ABS, and that he cannot be reasoned with. So, simply telling him that "The 4-Motion on the VW is the same as the AWD on the Subaru" is not going to work. He's going to reply with "No it's not, 4-Motion is anti lock brakes, not AWD"
NotFred:
It's a pity you have no critical thinking skills.
If my point that AWD != ABS is valid, then what is your beef? That I said "AWD" instead of typing out "4-motion"? Assume that in arguing with this person, that I'd have previously explained that 4-motion is just a tradename for ALL WHEEL DRIVE.
You are reading waaaay too far into this...
It's a pity you have no critical thinking skills.
If my point that AWD != ABS is valid, then what is your beef? That I said "AWD" instead of typing out "4-motion"? Assume that in arguing with this person, that I'd have previously explained that 4-motion is just a tradename for ALL WHEEL DRIVE.
You are reading waaaay too far into this...
Originally posted by: Jzero
NotFred:
It's a pity you have no critical thinking skills.
If my point that AWD != ABS is valid, then what is your beef? That I said "AWD" instead of typing out "4-motion"? Assume that in arguing with this person, that I'd have previously explained that 4-motion is just a tradename for ALL WHEEL DRIVE.
I have no critical thinking skills? Did you even read the original post? Here, I won't make you have to scroll up:
So you're just going to explain to the guy that 4-Motion is AWD? Hmm, it appears that SOMEONE ALREADY TRIED THAT.
Oh, but I have no critical thinking skills, because I don't want to try something that's already been shown to fail? I suppose your repeated ad hominem attacks on me show your superior debate skills?
Oh, but I have no critical thinking skills, because I don't want to try something that's already been shown to fail? I suppose your repeated ad hominem attacks on me show your superior debate skills?
Sure notfred, whatever. As if your condescending and patronizing attitude is just SOOO much better than my "attack" on you.
If you want to be obstinate and nitpicky, that's your problem. I know you get the point, but you're just being argumentative. So be it.
Sounds to me like Voodoo tried to explain HOW 4-motion works and wasn't being successful. I don't think he was trying to explain that different companies call it different things like Quattro, 4-Motion, 4Matic or what have you. How would doing so have helped him illustrate the difference between ABS and AWD? It WOULDN'T.
if you could read you would no that i said he thinks ABS and 4-motion are the same thing. I can't believe I had to spell that out to someone.
Thanks for the smartass remark tho
TRENDING THREADS
-
Discussion Zen 5 Speculation (EPYC Turin and Strix Point/Granite Ridge - Ryzen 9000)- Started by DisEnchantment
- Replies: 25K
-
Discussion Intel Meteor, Arrow, Lunar & Panther Lakes + WCL Discussion Threads
- Started by Tigerick
- Replies: 22K
-
News NVIDIA and Intel to Develop AI Infrastructure and Personal Computing Products- Started by poke01
- Replies: 384
-
Discussion Intel current and future Lakes & Rapids thread- Started by TheF34RChannel
- Replies: 23K
Facebook
Twitter