Is My Computer Ready for a Dirt Nap?

Carbo

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It's a four year old Gateway. My first, by the way, (and who can ever forget their first.....), An old P3 500, maxed out with 384MB memory. But, now, age is setting in. First the sound system died. Now, slowly but surely, the monitor brightness is fading ever so noticeably. The screen is dark and dull, like a dimwitted second cousin.
So, do I stick with my first love. Or, do I relegate ol' Betsy to the scrap heap and get myself a new, shiny trophy to tout the superiority of youth and new love.
Or, in other words, is it time to dump the old bastard and treat myself well?
What should I get, and where should I get it?
 
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Originally posted by: Carbo
Is My Computer Ready for a Dirt Nap? Gateway. Or, in other words, is it time to dump the old bastard and treat myself well?


yes.

What should I get, and where should I get it?
build it yourself, NewEgg.com i sugest you wait t'll jan or feb.
 

Carbo

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build it yourself, NewEgg.com i sugest you wait t'll jan or feb.
Why January or February? After Christmas sales expected?
I've heard good things about newegg, also. The real deal, I assume.
 
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good prices after the Christmas jack up, fast reliable shipping from new egg;

yea, and get a vid card a few months later, as there will be a new product cycle out then.
 

McCarthy

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As always must be asked on upgrade questions:
What do you use it for?

If you are a gamer then it seems to be upgrade time. If you do audio/video editing probably upgrade time. If you just surf the net and run office applications, no need to upgrade. Get yourself a nice monitor replacement and don't worry about the rest.

So, what do you use your computer for?
 

Eli

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If you throw your computer away I will personally hunt you down and shove a Slotket up your butt. :p

Don't. 1) It's contains a myriad of toxic material. 2) People can still use the good parts. 3) Send it to me.

:)

 

TheToOTaLL

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NEVER!

Throw an 80GB or something in it, get a 2 port KVM, and make it a file server beside your brand new PC :D
 

Amorphus

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Originally posted by: TheToOTaLL
NEVER!

Throw an 80GB or something in it, get a 2 port KVM, and make it a file server beside your brand new PC :D

why have a separate file server when you can just put another HD in it? I'm assuming he doesn't have a great # of computers in his house.
 

Banana

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It's cheaper to buy a new pre-built PC--You get a warranty and latest software. But if you'd rather have fun, try building your own. You can build a new one all at once, or upgrade a little bit at a time. Do you have a decent case right now? If your Gateway's case is small or weird, then it will be hard to upgrade the motherboard/CPU/memory, which is the first thing I'd do in your case (no pun).
 
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Originally posted by: Amorphus
Originally posted by: TheToOTaLL
NEVER!

Throw an 80GB or something in it, get a 2 port KVM, and make it a file server beside your brand new PC :D

why have a separate file server when you can just put another HD in it? I'm assuming he doesn't have a great # of computers in his house.

oh.. they start to add up.
 

Carbo

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So, what do you use your computer for?
McCarthy, home office, for the most part. Not a gamer; no great needs for graphics, etc. Emails, surf the 'net, Word docs.
donate, still good for web
Oroo Oroo, agreed. It may be old but it is still a great freebie for someone or some organization who doesn't have one.
If you throw your computer away I will personally hunt you down and shove a Slotket up your butt. Don't. 1) It's contains a myriad of toxic material. 2) People can still use the good parts. 3) Send it to me.
Eli, I hear you. It ain't goin' in the trash. It's on its way to you. Postage due, of course :gift:.

Thinking about it, I don't think it makes much sense to upgrade the old heap. With prices what they are today, it makes more sense to buy new. My big question is am I better off going the prebuilt/Dell route? Or, buying the components and building myself. Seems to be the polls run 50/50 on this issue.

 

rgwalt

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Originally posted by: Carbo
So, what do you use your computer for?
McCarthy, home office, for the most part. Not a gamer; no great needs for graphics, etc. Emails, surf the 'net, Word docs.
donate, still good for web
Oroo Oroo, agreed. It may be old but it is still a great freebie for someone or some organization who doesn't have one.
If you throw your computer away I will personally hunt you down and shove a Slotket up your butt. Don't. 1) It's contains a myriad of toxic material. 2) People can still use the good parts. 3) Send it to me.
Eli, I hear you. It ain't goin' in the trash. It's on its way to you. Postage due, of course :gift:.

Thinking about it, I don't think it makes much sense to upgrade the old heap. With prices what they are today, it makes more sense to buy new. My big question is am I better off going the prebuilt/Dell route? Or, buying the components and building myself. Seems to be the polls run 50/50 on this issue.

It depends on how computer savy you are. I used to think that having a warrantee with Dell was nice as they would have to trouble-shoot my problems, and replace any parts that go out. Now I feel that I can solve more problems than Dell support could ever help me with, so I'm at the point that I will build my next machine myself.

So, can you trouble-shoot your own PC problems? Do you feel comfortable being completely responsible for any hardware/software problems you may have? If so, build the machine yourself. You can customize everything just the way you want.

Ryan
 

radioouman

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Why get rid of something that fast? I'm still using a Hewlett Packard Vectra VL, Pentium 166 with 160 meg of RAM, and two 2 gig hard drives as a web server (running Windows 2000). I just can't part for something that has uptime measured in months.
 

brigden

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Originally posted by: radioouman
Why get rid of something that fast? I'm still using a Hewlett Packard Vectra VL, Pentium 166 with 160 meg of RAM, and two 2 gig hard drives as a web server (running Windows 2000). I just can't part for something that has uptime measured in months.

Oh, you poor thing.
 

EyeMWing

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Yes. Dispose of it. WingCorp Computing Solutions has an excellent program for reinserting computers into the operational force of schools and other institutions after refurbishing the entire system. PM me for a shipping address.
 

matt426malm

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Donate it man, that or recycle it. I recycled one of my grandma's old p1 she had for her accounting biz. It's like a toxic material drive but with computers. But yours is pretty fast donate it.
 

Nyical

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Originally posted by: Eli
If you throw your computer away I will personally hunt you down and shove a Slotket up your butt. :p

Don't. 1) It's contains a myriad of toxic material. 2) People can still use the good parts. 3) Send it to me.

:)

I would pay money to see that happen ;)
 

McCarthy

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Ok, to determine prebuilt vs DIY:
What OS are you running? Would you like to move to XP if you're not already there?
Is noise a big concern? (Can build yourself a quiet one, takes more attention)
Do you expect your needs to change significantly in the next few years?
Is size a consideration? Full tower or shoebox size no difference to you?
Your time, do you enjoy working on your computer or would it be a chore?

Seems you get a computer working, use it for a good while. So whether a prebuilt has 3 or 7 PCI slots, AGP 8x or 72x, etc, doesn't sound critical. By the time you run into an expansion need that a prebuilt's motherboard doesn't support you'll be ready for a new system.

Most people don't include software when they price a prebuilt vs homebuilt. So they get them within dollars of each other and then declare victory because their pile of unassembled parts could potentially run Quake faster. If there was an OS to start the machine with, a mouse to click the Quake icon...you get the point.

Dell I got my mother is very quiet. Only 2 fans in the entire thing, a standard 80mm in the power supply and an 80mm just below it pulling air through the case and over the CPU via a duct. The only noise that comes from it is from the hard drive and even then only during seeks can you hear it. Very nice for an small home office environment like she has. Also, the P4 2ghz she has puts out almost no heat when sitting idle. (2k)XP+iNTEL=cool idling. AMD never has gotten their HALT commands as good so my 2700+ pours out warmth all summer.

Along the same lines with the noise/reliability - video card. If you get a Dell you'll likely get a GeForce 4MX or Intel Extreme Integrated. If you don't game much or at all these would both work, though I'd prefer the GF4 solution over integrated. It's better overall and no downside especially since the OEM GF4 won't have a fan. If you build a system yourself this is something to keep in mind when picking a card. Fans are nice in that they let gamers have faster cards, but meanwhile they're making noise and collecting dust every second a computer is on, gaming or not.

It'd be nice to have dual 8ghz Xeons with an ATI 99000Pro and 4 gigs of ram, but if you don't need it and wouldn't use it why pay for it? If I were you I'd watch Hot Deals, or for a quicker to scan option check Ben's every other day or so for a Dell deal and go that route. Figure up how much it'd cost to build one so you have that reference, using the parts you actually need and the software you'd get and use from a prebuilt, then compare as deals come along. Doesn't sound like you're in a crisis with your needs and your current computer so no need for rash purchases.
 

Carbo

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Running XP Pro. Have a legitimate copy, so I won't be needing to buy an OS. Same with Office XP. Software needs are already taken care of.
I have a fairly new HP 952C printer. No need to upgrade that, either. The scanner is an older Epson that I will probably replace.
Over the past four years of owing my Gateway I have learned quite a bit. I have ripped open the case many times and repaired/upgraded successfully. I have access to someone who can also help me should something occur that I can't handle. That said, I'm confident I could build a rig from scratch if I wanted to. It comes down to the time allotment. Do I want to take the time to shop online, and then the time to put it all together. From an ego standpoint it would be satisfying to take on the challenge and succeed. On the other hand, from a cost and quality standpoint, I don't think I'm gaining any thing considering my modest computing needs. I mean, I want a P4 3G cpu with a gig of RAM. But I don't need it for what I use the computer for.
When I look at what I can build myself for, say, $2,000 versus what I can get from Dell for the same, there doesn't appear to be much difference. One phone call, it arrives put together, and I'm set to go in thirty minutes. I guess I'm leaning to the prebuilt. But I've got some time to decide.
 

DurocShark

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Hey, if Eli doesn't want it, I'll take it and pay shipping. :D

My wife is still mad at me for getting rid of "her" iOpener. ;) But that iOpener helped fund my 17" LCD. LoL