Originally posted by: mariok2006
I use the 10-8-6-4 routine...10x95lb, 8x115lb, 6x135, 4x165. Three sets of those have worked pretty good for me...but i think you need to mention your physical attributes and why you are lifting (gain muscle, tone?)
Originally posted by: mariok2006
I use the 10-8-6-4 routine...10x95lb, 8x115lb, 6x135, 4x165. Three sets of those have worked pretty good for me...but i think you need to mention your physical attributes and why you are lifting (gain muscle, tone?)
Originally posted by: Phokus
Originally posted by: mariok2006
I use the 10-8-6-4 routine...10x95lb, 8x115lb, 6x135, 4x165. Three sets of those have worked pretty good for me...but i think you need to mention your physical attributes and why you are lifting (gain muscle, tone?)
so it sounds like your 1st and 2nd set you don't press until failure huh?
Originally posted by: mariok2006
Originally posted by: Phokus
Originally posted by: mariok2006
I use the 10-8-6-4 routine...10x95lb, 8x115lb, 6x135, 4x165. Three sets of those have worked pretty good for me...but i think you need to mention your physical attributes and why you are lifting (gain muscle, tone?)
so it sounds like your 1st and 2nd set you don't press until failure huh?
correct...they are basically intended for warmup
Originally posted by: drsafety
Seems like you aren't used to long, intense workouts if your strength decreases that fast. try doing workouts with 10-12 sets for chest, do exercises like incline/decline bench, dumbell presses, hammer grip dumbell presses, and weighted dips. Use good form. How's your nutrition? If you aren't eating well (especially carbs) then your performance in the weight room be be held back by this. PM me if you have more questions.
Originally posted by: Phokus
Based on some advice, i changed my routine.
1st set: 95 pounds/10 reps (warmup)
2nd set: 135 pounds/10
3rd set: 135 pounds/7
4th set:135/5
5th set: 135/3 or 4 reps
Is it normal for my reps to drop down so far? Should i make any other adjustments?
Originally posted by: Koing
Originally posted by: Phokus
Based on some advice, i changed my routine.
1st set: 95 pounds/10 reps (warmup)
2nd set: 135 pounds/10
3rd set: 135 pounds/7
4th set:135/5
5th set: 135/3 or 4 reps
Is it normal for my reps to drop down so far? Should i make any other adjustments?
You lack muscle endurance. This is why your reps drop off as your sets go up. How long do you rest inbetween your sets?
First 'work' set at 135lbs is good. 10reps but were you 'busting a gut' to get to 10reps? 2nd set (we won't count the 95lbs as that is a 'warm up') at 135lbs was quite a drop off it.
How long have you been training?
You should be able to at least maintain 135lbs for say 6reps x 4-5sets. Or even 135lbs x 12reps x 4 sets later. The more months and years you clock in the gym you get CONSIDERABLY stronger. It just takes time and commitment.
Do about 10reps with just the bar. Then add 10kg to each side and do say 4-6reps. Then go up in 10Kgs to your 'training weight'.
Koing
Originally posted by: mariok2006
Originally posted by: Phokus
Originally posted by: mariok2006
I use the 10-8-6-4 routine...10x95lb, 8x115lb, 6x135, 4x165. Three sets of those have worked pretty good for me...but i think you need to mention your physical attributes and why you are lifting (gain muscle, tone?)
so it sounds like your 1st and 2nd set you don't press until failure huh?
correct...they are basically intended for warmup
Originally posted by: Phokus
Originally posted by: drsafety
Seems like you aren't used to long, intense workouts if your strength decreases that fast. try doing workouts with 10-12 sets for chest, do exercises like incline/decline bench, dumbell presses, hammer grip dumbell presses, and weighted dips. Use good form. How's your nutrition? If you aren't eating well (especially carbs) then your performance in the weight room be be held back by this. PM me if you have more questions.
So i should do more sets huh? I thought that was for more endurance gains rather than strength gains?
Originally posted by: Phokus
Hey, if i can do 135 pounds 10 times, what's my 1 rep max?
Originally posted by: Phokus
Originally posted by: Koing
Originally posted by: Phokus
Based on some advice, i changed my routine.
1st set: 95 pounds/10 reps (warmup)
2nd set: 135 pounds/10
3rd set: 135 pounds/7
4th set:135/5
5th set: 135/3 or 4 reps
Is it normal for my reps to drop down so far? Should i make any other adjustments?
You lack muscle endurance. This is why your reps drop off as your sets go up. How long do you rest inbetween your sets?
First 'work' set at 135lbs is good. 10reps but were you 'busting a gut' to get to 10reps? 2nd set (we won't count the 95lbs as that is a 'warm up') at 135lbs was quite a drop off it.
How long have you been training?
You should be able to at least maintain 135lbs for say 6reps x 4-5sets. Or even 135lbs x 12reps x 4 sets later. The more months and years you clock in the gym you get CONSIDERABLY stronger. It just takes time and commitment.
Do about 10reps with just the bar. Then add 10kg to each side and do say 4-6reps. Then go up in 10Kgs to your 'training weight'.
Koing
Yeah i'm a newb at this... i think i've been doing this 2 - 3 months... i rest about 2 minutes in between sets, maybe a little more on the later sets...
The first 'work' set, i lifted until failure and i was working really hard.
Originally posted by: Koing
Originally posted by: Phokus
Originally posted by: Koing
Originally posted by: Phokus
Based on some advice, i changed my routine.
1st set: 95 pounds/10 reps (warmup)
2nd set: 135 pounds/10
3rd set: 135 pounds/7
4th set:135/5
5th set: 135/3 or 4 reps
Is it normal for my reps to drop down so far? Should i make any other adjustments?
You lack muscle endurance. This is why your reps drop off as your sets go up. How long do you rest inbetween your sets?
First 'work' set at 135lbs is good. 10reps but were you 'busting a gut' to get to 10reps? 2nd set (we won't count the 95lbs as that is a 'warm up') at 135lbs was quite a drop off it.
How long have you been training?
You should be able to at least maintain 135lbs for say 6reps x 4-5sets. Or even 135lbs x 12reps x 4 sets later. The more months and years you clock in the gym you get CONSIDERABLY stronger. It just takes time and commitment.
Do about 10reps with just the bar. Then add 10kg to each side and do say 4-6reps. Then go up in 10Kgs to your 'training weight'.
Koing
Yeah i'm a newb at this... i think i've been doing this 2 - 3 months... i rest about 2 minutes in between sets, maybe a little more on the later sets...
The first 'work' set, i lifted until failure and i was working really hard.
It's alright. I was once a n00b also
Lift less weight for the 135lbs. First 4 weeks you should be doing a weight you can do for 10reps x 3 sets.
You worked FAR FAR too hard on the first set. This shows in your reps for your later sets.
It doesn't matter what weight you lift. Lift for a good 10reps x 3 sets. This is a 'basic' get a good 30reps in. More reps = more practice for the lift. The more practice you get the better your technique will be and the better you will be at the lift.
Koing
