Is my Athlon 64 a 586 chip?

[halfpower]

586? 386?

 

[TuxDave]

How about x86.

 

[Crescent13]

Originally posted by: halfpower
586? 386?

What are you babbling about? Tell me the model number of your amd 64, and i'll tell you everything you wanted to know about it (well almost everything). The model numbers go like 3000+, 3800+, things like that. Are you still back in the pentium 586 days?

 

[Budman]

K6 AMD were 6x86
K7 AMD were 7x86
so i guess a A64 K8 is 886?

 

[Kogan]

286, 386, 486, etc, those were just old Intel model numbers that they made up every time a different cpu core was introduced. They just call everything x86 now.

 

[coldpower27]

Yeah K8 would be 8th Generation X86 Processor or 886,if there was such a designation, Intel abandoned that naming scheme I beleive when they went to the Pentium branding which was their 586, 686, 786...

 

[Aenslead]

however, Pentium 4 is still 6th generation... that is, 6x86

 

[GoSharks]

Originally posted by: Aenslead
however, Pentium 4 is still 6th generation... that is, 6x86

how so? i would consider it at least a 7th generation. original pentium = 586, p2/3 = 686, p4 = 786?

 

[hurtstotalktoyou]

Originally posted by: Aenslead
however, Pentium 4 is still 6th generation... that is, 6x86

I'm pretty sure that the Pentium Pro/II/III architecture was vastly different than the original Pentium and Pentium MMX. That makes Netburst 7th-generation.

As for AMD, the K5 and K6 both seem to use the same architecture. If true, that would make the Athlon "K7" series sixth-generation, and the Athlon 64 "K8" seventh-generation.

 

[Fenuxx]

No, the P4 isn't 686. "686" (or P6) only describes the Pentium II, III, and Pentium M CPU's. I believe that the K7 is 686 like the P-III, so that would make the K8 786.

 

[hurtstotalktoyou]

Just to be clear, there is no "586," "686" or "786." There are, however, architectural generations which can be identified, albeit with questionable accuracy.

1st generation...
Intel 8086 & 8088, and AMD/Cyrix knockoffs

2nd generation...
Intel 80286, and AMD/Cyrix knockoffs

3rd generation...
Intel 80386DX & 80386SX, and AMD/Cyrix knockoffs

4th generation...
Intel 80486DX, 80486DX2, 80486DX4 & 80486SX, and AMD/Cyrix knockoffs
AMD 5x86

5th generation...
Intel Pentium
Intel Pentium MMX
Intel Pentium Overdrive
AMD K5
AMD K6, K6-2, K6-2+ & K6-III

6th generation...
Intel Pentium Pro
Intel Pentium II
Intel Pentium III
Intel Celeron (through 1.4 GHz)
AMD Athlon
AMD Athlon XP
AMD Duron
AMD Sempron (socket A)

7th generation...
Intel Pentium 4
Intel Pentium 4 HT
Intel Pentium 4 EE
Intel Pentium D
Intel Pentium EE
Intel Celeron (from 1.7 GHz)
Intel Celeron D
AMD Athlon 64
AMD Athlon 64 FX
AMD Sempron (socket 754)

...and that's just desktop processors. The Pentium M is arguably eighth-generation, as is AMD's Turion.

 

[Fenuxx]

Originally posted by: hurtstotalktoyou
Just to be clear, there is no "586," "686" or "786." There are, however, architectural generations which can be identified, albeit with questionable accuracy.

1st generation...
Intel 8086 & 8088, and AMD/Cyrix knockoffs

2nd generation...
Intel 80286, and AMD/Cyrix knockoffs

3rd generation...
Intel 80386DX & 80386SX, and AMD/Cyrix knockoffs

4th generation...
Intel 80486DX, 80486DX2, 80486DX4 & 80486SX, and AMD/Cyrix knockoffs
AMD 5x86

5th generation...
Intel Pentium
Intel Pentium MMX
Intel Pentium Overdrive
AMD K5
AMD K6, K6-2, K6-2+ & K6-III

6th generation...
Intel Pentium Pro
Intel Pentium II
Intel Pentium III
Intel Celeron (through 1.4 GHz)
AMD Athlon
AMD Athlon XP
AMD Duron
AMD Sempron (socket A)

7th generation...
Intel Pentium 4
Intel Pentium 4 HT
Intel Pentium 4 EE
Intel Pentium D
Intel Pentium EE
Intel Celeron (from 1.7 GHz)
Intel Celeron D
AMD Athlon 64
AMD Athlon 64 FX
AMD Sempron (socket 754)

...and that's just desktop processors. The Pentium M is arguably eighth-generation, as is AMD's Turion.

You got it almost right. The Pentium M is still 6th generation. It's based on the P6 core, which is the same core that powers the Pentium II\III. The Turion is 7th gen, as its essentially a mobile version of the Athlon 64.

 

[MBrown]

I thought all Pentiums were 5x86s. Thats why they call them Pentiums right? Pent = 5

 

[exar333]

Originally posted by: Crescent13

Originally posted by: halfpower
586? 386?

What are you babbling about? Tell me the model number of your amd 64, and i'll tell you everything you wanted to know about it (well almost everything). The model numbers go like 3000+, 3800+, things like that. Are you still back in the pentium 586 days?

ur a jerk...lets be a little more helpful thatn that...and his question does make sense...

 

[hurtstotalktoyou]

Originally posted by: MBrown
I thought all Pentiums were 5x86s. Thats why they call them Pentiums right? Pent = 5

They were called Pentiums because they were fifth-generation x86 processors. They were never called 586 or 5x86. The codename was "P5," and the actual name was "Pentium." Only Cyrix and AMD tried their hands at the 586 & 5x86 labels.

 

[Stonewall]

When I bought my first computer in 1995 Compaq/Intel advertised it as the "new 586" computer. It was top of the line at 75Mhz! I bought right at the time Windows 3.1 was going out and Windows '95 was coming in. But it was still a 586. 10 years sure makes a difference doesn't it??

 

[hurtstotalktoyou]

Originally posted by: Stonewall
When I bought my first computer in 1995 Compaq/Intel advertised it as the "new 586" computer. It was top of the line at 75Mhz! I bought right at the time Windows 3.1 was going out and Windows '95 was coming in. But it was still a 586. 10 years sure makes a difference doesn't it??

There was no Intel 586 processor. The advertisement was in error, or else you misunderstood it.

AMD made a chip called the 5x86 P75, which was actually a clock-quadrupled 486 running at 133 MHz. They marketed it as comparable to the Pentium 75, which in truth it was.

However, there was never an Intel 586 processor, and the AMD "5x86" was actually just a fast 486.

 

[Stonewall]

Yeap I know that now but Best Buy didn't know it then!