is MSI a bad mobo manufacturer ?

[flexy]

just confused..some very wide known boards (MSI neo etc.) are made by then - then others say that MSI sucks..whats up with that ?

 

[Squally Leonharty]

While I personally haven't used any MSI boards, MSI did get a bad reputation in the past, mainly due to the leaking capacitors on their past motherboards. Even their current boards have some problems, but they did improve. Hence, I always say this: Asus for reliability (I've always used Asus and never got problems; all components worked in the first place) and MSI for performance (whether or not you get errors or problems is another question).

 

[tomstevens26]

Speaking strictly from personal experience I've had 3 MSI boards and they've all failed. Two within a year and one lasted almost 2 years before giving up the ghost. Maybe it's just my luck, but they are the only boards I've ever experienced problems like this with.

 

[DrCool]

No, as a matter of fact, the exact opposite is true.

Squally

I think you've got your facts a little mixed up.. A couple years back a shady capactior company was passing bad capacitors to many motherboard vendors. This caused some problems on a few motherboards before the problem was recognized, all the motherboard manufacturers who found out about this gave special replacement to any boards with this issue. It had nothing to do with MSI, and affected several other motherboard makers, including Abit.

tomstevens26

sounds like you've just had some very bad luck. when you say they 'failed' would you mind explaining in more detail.. and did you contact MSI, and utilize the warranty and RMA process?

I've built numerous sytems utilizing MSI motherboards, and I stand behind thier quality. All systems I build are designed for 24x7/365 useage, so they must be solid. I've never had 1 bad board.. then again I've been building systems for the past 10 years, and know what i'm doing. I've actually only ever had 1 bad motherboard (which was due to the cirucumstances described above). I have had bad components on a motherboard (like a dead onboard sound chip, or bad connector, etc.) but never any boards that were totally dead, or unusable.

You have to realize your dealing with exteremly fragile and sensitive components, and even small mistakes can cause BIG problems. Take advantage of any Warranties your given if you have a DOA board, or any problems arise.. thats what they are there for.

I can also personally voche for quality RMA from MSI, as one of the boards had bad sound connectors, i rma'd it and they fixed it within a week, and send it back.

 

[kamranziadar]

Well i am using MSI, it has few draw back like it not allow you to change VCORE, and second when i upgrade my ram from 512MB TO 1GB PC3200 400mhz it runs it at 333MHZ. So from my experience it is not good, but i heard they are improving. But most people says ASUS is good.

 

[Chris2wire]

It differs for everyone, but for me in particular MSI has been the best mobo maker. Best overclocking, best stability, best RAM compatibility. My Barton/Nforce2 on an MSI was the greatest of all.

Like I said different people have different experiances.

I just ordered VIA socket on an MSI for skt939. Until they faulter with me Ill probably always go with MSI.

Another reason is there GREAT compatibility between MSI mobos and OCZ ram. Im not sure why it is but motherboards in modern days are VERY picky about RAM. I used to always worry "will this mobo work with my ram?"

Ever since I read about people having great success with MSI and OCZ, thats what I got. And 4 MSI motherboards later Im still using the same OCZ ram, it always works and clocks great.

For this benefit of knowing I won't have memory to worry about I always buy MSI mobo and OCZ ram.

 

[tomstevens26]

Originally posted by: DrCool
tomstevens26

sounds like you've just had some very bad luck. when you say they 'failed' would you mind explaining in more detail.. and did you contact MSI, and utilize the warranty and RMA process?

For the first two, they were still under warranty from the place I bought them from (Monarch Computer) so I sent them back to Monarch and they replaced the boards with DFI boards both times. I didn't even bother with the last one that failed. I realize everyone gets a bad product, but 3 boards from the same manufacturer that fail doesn't exactly leave me with a warm and fuzzy to go buy another one of their products.

Tom

 

[Vegito]

All Dell Desktop made after 2002 were MSI, also video card.. so unless all 2002+ dells failed.. MSI would be a bad manufacture but they're not.. I only used their video card.. ordered over 200 for work desktops.

 

[Fern]

Originally posted by: flexy
just confused..some very wide known boards (MSI neo etc.) are made by then - then others say that MSI sucks..whats up with that ?

I've never heard that.

My own experience with them was quite good. An MSI KT3 Ultra that's been getting along very nicely for the past couple of years. Very stable and fast.

Fern

 

[CraigRT]

I've had good luck with them, but I think I am just one of the lucky ones. A lot of people have trouble with their stuff.

Me, I've had 2 MSI powered rigs without problem.

1 recently just retired after like 3-4 years of reliable service... K7T Turbo-R limited edition.. great mobo.... VERY solid. the other a K7T266 Pro2, was also not a problem.

 

[htmlmasterdave]

I've owned a few... my old K7T Turbo LE that I just recently sold was an amazing board, I used it for 3 years with exceptional stability and performance. I don't know if MSI is quite as good as it used to be though, I had a Neo2 for my P4, and it was not as responsive or high performing as the Abit AI7 that replaced it (I sold it). However I'd say labelling them as a bad manufacturer is going too far, they still make quality boards.

 

[effee]

I don't know if MSI has redeemed itself, but for me, I'd stay clear away from them

 

[zodder]

My last three builds have been with MSI boards (K8T, K8N, 865PE) and they have been absolutely outstanding. Even though these are the only MSI boards I have ever used, I guarantee I'll use only MSI in the future.

 

[Budman]

Originally posted by: effee
I don't know if MSI has redeemed itself, but for me, I'd stay clear away from them

Same for me, MSI SUCKS!!!

Fool me once shame on me,fool me twice shame on MSI !!

MSI never again.


You can't get fooled again.

 

[LordPhoenix]

Asus and Abit am thx.

 

[MetalMat]

MSI sucks. I have had 2 motherboards from MSI fail on me, and my MSI brand Geforce 4 MX460 had to be underclocked to be stable. I have the same grudge against diamond

 

[DrCool]

wow, I'm estonded at the ignorance of some of the posts i just read..

I've used ASUS, MSI, ABIT, and DFI motherboards..

one of the problems might be who you people are buying your components from.. not all resellers/retailers/vendors are created equal.

90% of all my component purchases are from Mwave.com and they are a fantastic online retailer.
Only had to RMA one board from them due to bad sound connectors, but that's out of like 30+ boards.

I can wholeheartly recommend ASUS, MSI, and ABIT motherboards, without a second thought.

Each of these companies has there strong points, and all build quality components.

Unless your buying your components from reputable vendors, please don't post your sob stories.. (ie. i wouldn't consider Monarch Computers a reputable vendor)

 

[Squally Leonharty]

Originally posted by: DrCool
Squally

I think you've got your facts a little mixed up.. A couple years back a shady capactior company was passing bad capacitors to many motherboard vendors. This caused some problems on a few motherboards before the problem was recognized, all the motherboard manufacturers who found out about this gave special replacement to any boards with this issue. It had nothing to do with MSI, and affected several other motherboard makers, including Abit.

Oops, my bad. I do remember having read an article that was specifically about MSI and the bad capacitors on their motherboards, though. Well, either the author was focussing only on MSI, or was against MSI, or there was another issue. *_*

 

[gibbsman]

I've had 2 MSI motherboards as well as some MSI Graphics cards. I've been pleased with all of them. Personally I like Gigabyte or ASUS best, but I'd use an MSI board again.

 

[poppyq]

Originally posted by: forcesho
All Dell Desktop made after 2002 were MSI, also video card.. so unless all 2002+ dells failed.. MSI would be a bad manufacture but they're not.. I only used their video card.. ordered over 200 for work desktops.

I don't know where you get your information from but Dell desktops do not use MSI motherboards. The video cards aren't either (though they may use some MSI video cards, not ALL of them are MSI).

 

[IanE]

I've been running an MSI K8N Neo Platinum for a month and a half now and I haven't had a single problem with it. I'm extremely happy with it in every aspect. But, maybe I got lucky. ASUS does make awesome boards, and the Neo Platinum kicks ass.

Anandtech gave the Neo Platinum a fancy award and keeps its advertisement on the front page, so it must be good!

 

[Budman]

Is MSI one of the best motherboard manufacturers?


Opinion on MSI motherboards?

 

[tomstevens26]

Originally posted by: DrCool
Unless your buying your components from reputable vendors, please don't post your sob stories.. (ie. i wouldn't consider Monarch Computers a reputable vendor)

What you consider to be a reputable vendor is irrelevant. I don't consider mine a sob story...just an experience with three craptastic boards. And I guess I should point out that the 3rd failed board was from Newegg IIRC. Again, not that it matters if you consider them a reputable vendor...what matters is that particular board failed.

The fact of the matter is that recommending a board based solely on the manufacturer is probably not the best idea. We all know that even the best manufacturer produces a bad product from time to time, and a lemon (or three) can be found in even the best model.

Tom

 

[RadiclDreamer]

I've used a couple MSI boards, only had trouble with one of them, weird issue where if the onboard sound was enabled, the system would lock....alot

 

[AyashiKaibutsu]

Asus k8n-e came doa so I switched to MSI and it worked. That's just one case though.