Is Mozilla Firefox cool or what?

[screw3d]

Originally posted by: Cerb

Originally posted by: Abos

Originally posted by: Cerb

Originally posted by: Abos

Originally posted by: Cerb
I don't use Opera, as Firefox is free, but it is technically superior in every way.

Is Opera open-source?

No, and the version that costs nothing gives ad banners.

If Opera is not open-source, then you would have never seen the code, and therefore have no grounds to call it "technically superior." Though it doesn't matter anyway since superiority is a matter of opinion.

1. On a slow machine, it's easy to see that it's faster.
2. Do some real HTML4 or XHTML 1.1 pages and really take advantage of CSS2.
Guess what? FF will work, no complaints there, but Opera will do more, and be closer to what the spec says it should. Look at some pages linked from W3C's CSS site (the tutorial ones and such). Several can show this.
If it were insanely better, I'd use it. It is better, just not enough to justify ad banners.

In addition, I tried using Opera (as in, no FF/FB for a couple weeks) again a month or so back...no problems aside from the obvious.
FF will occasionally crash still, and if you open too many tabs too quickly from the same site (like forum threads), it has some wierd display issues.

What do you mean by "closer to what the spec says it should"? It's either on-spec or off-spec. As far as I know, Mozilla was built grounds-up to be standards-compliant. I have no idea about Opera though At least it's hell a lot more on-spec than IE.

 

[aswedc]

Originally posted by: Insomniak

Originally posted by: Yossarian
opera > mozilla

Bulldink. Slower, fuglier, crowded GUI, and those annoying mouse motions.

Thats ridiculous. Firefox takes up 75Mhz of processing power just to type in a freaking text box! If you don't believe me, try it on a 486 or original Pentium and watch it take 30 seconds to type in "anandtech.com"!

 

[JustAnAverageGuy]

Originally posted by: Insomniak

Originally posted by: Yossarian
opera > mozilla

Bulldink. Slower, fuglier, crowded GUI, and those annoying mouse motions.

OperaSS.jpg

huh? If you took a few minutes to clean up what you don't use, it can look very nice.

 

[Nothinman]

huh? If you took a few minutes to clean up what you don't use, it can look very nice.

And if you pay to remove the banner ad.

 

[JustAnAverageGuy]

Originally posted by: Nothinman

huh? If you took a few minutes to clean up what you don't use, it can look very nice.

And if you pay to remove the banner ad.

well... obviously ( )

It's worth it though.

 

[n0cmonkey]

I like both Opera and Firefox. They both definitely need some work though.

 

[Nothinman]

It's worth it though.

Not by a long shot, IMO.

 

[Abos]

Originally posted by: aswedc

Originally posted by: Insomniak

Originally posted by: Yossarian
opera > mozilla

Bulldink. Slower, fuglier, crowded GUI, and those annoying mouse motions.

Thats ridiculous. Firefox takes up 75Mhz of processing power just to type in a freaking text box! If you don't believe me, try it on a 486 or original Pentium and watch it take 30 seconds to type in "anandtech.com"!

Higher performance hardware allows for higher perfermance software... your argument is flawed.

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: Abos

Originally posted by: aswedc

Originally posted by: Insomniak

Originally posted by: Yossarian
opera > mozilla

Bulldink. Slower, fuglier, crowded GUI, and those annoying mouse motions.

Thats ridiculous. Firefox takes up 75Mhz of processing power just to type in a freaking text box! If you don't believe me, try it on a 486 or original Pentium and watch it take 30 seconds to type in "anandtech.com"!

Higher performance hardware allows for higher perfermance software... your argument is flawed.

Software development should be based around top of the line hardware?

 

[JustAnAverageGuy]

Originally posted by: n0cmonkeySoftware development should be based around top of the line hardware?

Most people have greater than 75MHz machines

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: JustAnAverageGuy

Originally posted by: n0cmonkeySoftware development should be based around top of the line hardware?

Most people have greater than 75MHz machines

Do you have a link or something? I know plenty of people that own and use slower machines.

Why not program for the lowest common denominator? Make it work okay on slower machines for those of us that keep them around.

 

[Abos]

Why not program for a higher common denominator, in order to take advantage of technological advances?

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: Abos
Why not program for a higher common denominator, in order to take advantage of technological advances?

Makes sense for video games or things that need to be high performance, but keeping browsers small and simple makes sense to me. I don't think SSE2 or anything will help out visiting anandtech.

It's just my opinion though, if developers think that people that cannot buy newer machines should be excluded, that's fine with me.

 

[Abos]

Well, I'm not saying browsers should be so advanced that they'll only run on Athlon 64's with 2gigs of ram, but even a POS Celeron system for $300 will OBLITERATE a Pentium 75 (I've got one... I know )

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: Abos
Well, I'm not saying browsers should be so advanced that they'll only run on Athlon 64's with 2gigs of ram, but even a POS Celeron system for $300 will OBLITERATE a Pentium 75 (I've got one... I know )

There are no replacements for old Sun machines. Nothing compares.

 

[Abos]

Commodore 64?

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: Abos
Commodore 64?

I think I've seen development advances on those over the past year or so. Search /.

 

[bsr]

I have to say, firefox is one really fast and customizable browser. I prefer opera because it has features that I cant live without, it would take a hell of alot of extentions and tweaks to get all the features I use in opera into Firefox. Overall though, someone who doesnt need a bunch of features, firefox is an exellent free browser. I use both


Firefox: fast, free, customizable, very stable

Opera: fast, more features, not free