Is Microsoft losing their grip on the home computer market?

[ruffilb]

In light of recent events, and what seems to be a heightened windows-mac rivalry, do you think they're losing their grip?

Will Vista help things, or not?

 

[waggy]

hehahhahah MS has nothing to worry about.

 

[ruffilb]

Originally posted by: waggy
hehahhahah MS has nothing to worry about.

That's not the same thing.

 

[Pikachu]

Considering what Best Buy charges for run of the mill PCs, the Macs will probably seem competitively priced there!

"I think it's great that Best Buy is going to carry the Mac. But carrying the Mac, which they've done in the past, is simply not the answer. They've got to sell the Mac. And I don't know if their sales force in the stores are capable of doing that."

What, you need to give some kind of pitch, like an Amway salesman or something? :laugh:

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: ruffilb
Topic Title: Is Microsoft losing their grip on the home computer market?
Topic Summary: Will they get it back after vista?

Say goodbye to control of "your" PC

Trusted Computing Group

This means that the above group and the Government "own" the PC.

You tell me if MS has anything to worry about.

 

[BW86]

MS will rule the world one day, you'll see. 🙁

If your bad in the future, you won't go to jail. They will just make you install Windows ME on your comp.

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: ruffilb
Topic Title: Is Microsoft losing their grip on the home computer market?
Topic Summary: Will they get it back after vista?

Say goodbye to control of "your" PC

https://www.trustedcomputinggroup.org/home">Trusted Computing Group</a>

This means that the above group and the Government "own" the PC.

You tell me if MS has anything to worry about.

the link does not work

 

[bennylong]

What's a MAC? Big Mac?

 

[aidanjm]

Originally posted by: waggy
hehahhahah MS has nothing to worry about.

virtualisation will make it very easy for people to experiment with different operating systems, and flip swiftly from one OS to another (running simultaneously on the one machine). this will make it easier for new/ different OS to gain a foothold on the home computer market, I would think and hope.

But ultimately, Linux will be the most common operating system running in the home, as it will be running inside computers embedded into just about every electrical device we use, from toasters and ovens to heating equipment.

 

[ruffilb]

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: ruffilb
Topic Title: Is Microsoft losing their grip on the home computer market?
Topic Summary: Will they get it back after vista?

Say goodbye to control of "your" PC

https://www.trustedcomputinggroup.org/home">Trusted Computing Group</a>

This means that the above group and the Government "own" the PC.

You tell me if MS has anything to worry about.

the link does not work

Apparently they do have something to worry about then?

 

[Linflas]

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: ruffilb
Topic Title: Is Microsoft losing their grip on the home computer market?
Topic Summary: Will they get it back after vista?

Say goodbye to control of "your" PC

https://www.trustedcomputinggroup.org/home">Trusted Computing Group</a>

This means that the above group and the Government "own" the PC.

You tell me if MS has anything to worry about.

the link does not work

http://https://www.trustedcomputinggroup.org/home Competing http's FTW

 

[beer]

My company makes the trusted platform modules that Dave is so concerned about. I'll make sure to check in a line of code that will perma-ban Dave from these forums right before we ship, so when the feds force him at gunpoint to use a TPM-equipped PC, he can't cry to us about it.

 

[state 08]

I voted WEAKINING because:

I feel that Vista doesn't bring anything amazing to the table. I remember when the transition from Windows 98/2000 to XP was much more... eventful/exciting. I just don't feel that same enthusiasm for Vista. When I beta tested XP, I wanted it really bad, but when I tested Vista, I hated it. I hate the the start button. I hate how the circle protrudes out of the task bar, and goes below the screen. I hate how the main theme is black. Too dark for a default theme. I hate how you can't revert to windows XP classic skin, only windows classic. I also like how the bar that holds FILE, Edit, View, Tools, Help, etc.. isnt there.

I'm not bothered by how its a resource hog, because I remember how I felt when XP came out the general consensus of PC's would be running optimally with XP, but now it's ok. I mean, your PC has to be a joke if it can't. It'll be the same for Vista.

Another reason I feel it's weakening is because Apple seems like they're putting on strong front.
New Intel Macs, Commercial making low blows to windows, Boot Camp, tests showing that Windows runs more effeciently on Apple PC's, etc...

Well, that's just how I feel.

As for Vista, I think it will hurt... but that's just because I don't like it.

 

[daveshel]

They say IBM stands for 'I Bought a Mac,'

 

[Wuffsunie]

Originally posted by: aidanjm
But ultimately, Linux will be the most common operating system running in the home, as it will be running inside computers embedded into just about every electrical device we use, from toasters and ovens to heating equipment.

That's a technicality at best. It may run the equipment itself, but the users will have minimal to no interaction with the core OS. Unless they're doing that, I don't think you could consider Linux as part of the argument. Besides, the average user is not capable of using Linux anyway.

Try and do phone support for home users on a user friendly OS like Windows XP; one with an extensive GUI, and commands that are typed in a close approximation to actual spoken english.

Then imagine the total and utter nightmare it would be trying to get these people through Linux.

Unless there is a major revolution in that operating system or the home user populace at large, there isn't a chance in hell it would ever become a mainstream operating system.


Oh, as for Vista, I think it might hurt MS a little, but not much. Windows XP is going to turn into the next 98 and is not likely to be superseded until MS comes up with something much, much better.