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Is McCain about to get Swiftboated....

bozack

Diamond Member
So yesterday I head the local guy Severin talking about this McCain scandal...and it reminded me alot of the Kerry Swiftboat attact, wondering if this is his "own party" (using that loosely as I don't consider him a conservative) trying to sell him down the river, or really as the article suggests something that the Klintons are holding on to for the right moment...

Here is the quoted text and link:

How the Clintons will undo McCain

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Posted: February 04, 2008
1:00 am Eastern

© 2008




The number of fellow senators who think John McCain is psychologically unstable is large. Some will admit it publicly, like Thad Cochran who says, "The thought of his being president sends a cold chill down my spine."

Others relate times when McCain screamed four-letter obscenities right in their faces in the Senate cloak room, like Dick Shelby, Rick Santorum or Jim Inhofe. "The man is unhinged," one senator told me. "He is frighteningly unfit to be commander-in-chief."

That John McCain is clinically nuts is scary enough. What worries a small group of GOP senators and congressmen even more is a deep and dark skeletal secret in McCain's glorified past to which they are privy, and which the Clintons will use to blackmail him.

They have been having discussions with a Russian whom we'll call "T" for translator. T's father was the Soviet military intelligence officer who ran the "Hanoi Hilton" prison holding captured Americans during the Vietnam War. One of those prisoners was John McCain.

The GRU ? Glavnoje Razvedyvatel'noje Upravlenije or main intelligence directorate of the Soviet (now Russian) Armed Forces ? operated the entire North Vietnamese prison system holding American prisoners of war. GRU officers, all of whom were Russians, oversaw the interrogation of every American POW.

The interrogations themselves were conducted by Vietnamese who spoke some English. After each interrogation session, which could often include torturing the prisoners at the direction of the GRU officers, the Vietnamese interrogator would write a report of the session ? in Vietnamese.

These reports had to be translated into Russian. T, a bright teenager living in the GRU compound in Hanoi, had become fluent in Vietnamese, and ended up translating many of the reports and interrogators' notes.

John McCain, flying his A-4 Skyhawk, was shot down over Hanoi on Oct. 26, 1967. Badly injured from the ejection, he was beaten and abused by his captors. In July, 1968, his father, U.S. Navy Adm. J. S. McCain, was made CINCPAC, commander in chief, Pacific Command, commander of all U.S. military forces in the Vietnam theatre. Upon learning this, the Vietnamese offered ? according to McCain ? to release him.

McCain claims he refused, because he demanded all American POWs captured before him be released as well. He thus remained a prisoner when he could have gone home, and was subjected to constant brutal beatings and torture for years: that is the source of the "war-hero" saga making McCain a greater war-hero than any other American POW.

Yet the offer of release would had to have been approved by the GRU overseers of the North Vietnamese ? and T does not recall any such offer being made. T admits, however, that this took place before McCain was transferred to Hoa Loa prison, nicknamed the "Hanoi Hilton" by the POWs. T had only direct knowledge of what happened at Hoa Loa, and not the other prisons, where T's father was in charge.

McCain was kept at the Hanoi Hilton from December 1969 until his release, along with all the remaining POWs, in March 1973. During this time, T translated all the Vietnamese interrogators' notes and reports regarding John McCain.

According to T, they reveal that McCain had made an "accommodation" with his captors, and in exchange, T's father saw that he was provided with an apartment in Hanoi and the services of two prostitutes. Upon returning to his prison cell, he would say he had been held in solitary confinement. That may be why so many of his fellow prisoners said later they saw so little of him at Hoa Loa.

The notes and reports written in Vietnamese were sent to Moscow, where T was a now a college student, for T's translation into Russian, then placed into GRU archives. That's where they stayed until 1991. Late that year, as the Soviet Union was collapsing, the CIA and the GRU made a deal for a document swap.

All of what it involved, T doesn't know. What T's father, by now retired but still with substantial contacts within the GRU, did learn (and thus T learned) was that the swap included all of T's translations.

In other words, the CIA has in its possession the notes and reports of John McCain's interrogators at the Hanoi Hilton, in both the original Vietnamese and translated Russian, showing collaboration with his Communist captors.

Allegations of this nature have been made over the years, many by Vietnam veterans. There is an even an organization, Vietnam Veterans Against McCain. But they are based on suspicions and circumstantial claims. There has never been any hard, direct evidence.

What T says the CIA has is such evidence. Its release would destroy McCain. The threat of its release could force McCain to take a fall, blow the election and lose on purpose. And just who do you suppose would know what the CIA has and work with them to release it?

Someone who has been a CIA asset since he was recruited by London station chief Cord Meyer while a student at Oxford in 1968?

Back in the '90s years after he retired, if Cord drank a little too much Scotch, he would laugh derisively at those conspiracists who accused Bill Clinton of being connected with the KGB. "They all darkly point to Bill's participation in anti-war peace conferences in Stockholm and Oslo, and his trip to Leningrad, Moscow and Prague while he was at Oxford. 'Who could have paid for this?' they ask. 'It had to be the KGB!' they claim." Cord would shake his head. "What rot ? we paid for it. We recruited Bill the first week he was at Oxford. Bill's been an asset of The Three Bad Words ever since." Cord passed on in 2001.)

The small group of senators and congressmen who have been briefed by T have been unable to confirm with the CIA any details of its document swap with the GRU beyond an admission that such a swap "may have happened." They are very nervous about pursuing the matter any further.

The Clintons are not nervous. They are utterly ruthless, and have buddies at Langley all too happy to help them.

It has been noted many times here in To The Point that while most folks think the CIA is a right-wing outfit, it is not. The CIA has been dominated by left-wing hyper-liberals for years.

The CIA is a left-wing, liberal outfit, and its main job for some time now is not attacking America's enemies but conservatives in general and George W. Bush in particular. The story is best told by friend Ken Timmerman in his new book "Shadow Warriors."

When the time is right, the Clintons will see to the leaking of the GRU archives on McCain to the media. Bet on it, just as you can bet they'll follow it up with media disclosures of the lady lobbyists in Washington having adulterous affairs with McCain. (There are at least three of them; I know the name of one, but I'm not going to put it in writing.)

Maybe McCain will try to fight back by confirming Hillary's well-known bisexuality and her lesbian affair with her beautiful assistant, Huma Abedin. Google "Hillary" and "Huma Abedin," and you'll get almost 6,000 hits. Turns out Huma is a Muslim who grew up in Saudi Arabia and is strongly suspected of working for Saudi intelligence.

Or maybe he'll capitulate to Clinton blackmail. You never can tell what a psychologically unstable guy will do.

And that last point is why ? be prepared for this, folks ? I would not in any circumstances vote for John McCain, not if either Hillary or Obama were the alternative. Evil is safer than crazy. Leftie amateur inexperience is safer than crazy. So I agree with Ann Coulter who says:

"I'd rather deal with President Hillary than with President McCain. With Hillary, we'll get the same ruinous liberal policies with none of the responsibility."

How in the world can the Republican Party get saddled with a nutcase wack job who knows nothing about economics, is so anti-capitalist he uses "profit" as a term of derision, has never run a business or had any job outside of government, will raise taxes, is so stupid that he believes "stopping global warming" is worth destroying the American economy, won't drill ANWR, won't appoint strict constructionist justices, won't protect marriage, will give amnesty to 20 million illegal aliens, is beloved by the New York Times and lives in a delusionary world of vanity and rage?

Rush is right. A McCain presidency will be the destruction of the Republican Party. It needs to be rebuilt, not wiped out with the field clear for the fascists of the left to consolidate power and eliminate freedom.

And maybe the only way to rebuild it is in dedicated impassioned opposition to a Clinton White House. That should be the subject of Ann Coulter's next book. I've already got the title for her. Her last book was "If Democrats Had Any Brains, They'd Be Republicans."

Ann needs to now write this book: "If Republicans Had Any Brains, They'd Be Republicans." (A Yogi Berra note: There still is a chance for Romney, the last remaining hope. If he can win enough delegates on Super Tuesday next week, combined with Huckabee winning Georgia and other southern states, it may still be possible for McCain to end up with only a plurality of delegates, not a majority, at the end of primary season. An open convention is still possible, during which Republicans could come to their senses. It's not over until it's over.)

Jack Wheeler is editor of ToThePointNews. He served in six conflicts against communist guerrillas, sky-dived at the North Pole, discovered three unknown tribes and holds a Ph.D. in philosophy from the University of Southern California, where he lectured on Aristotelian ethics.

The Washington Post called Wheeler a "right-wing Indiana Jones." He is widely credited with inspiring the "Reagan Doctrine," which called for U.S. support of freedom fighters.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/n...e.asp?ARTICLE_ID=60020
 
McCain is someone I love to watch. He is a classic American politician, and it surprises me how he is still able to pull it off in the age of television and internet. He is the type of senator who, a hundred years ago, would've beat a colleague with a cane on the Senate floor. His genial facade is so transparent and maybe his supporters know this, know they are voting for that cranky, ruthless bastard who will stir hell in Congress.

But many of the bandwagon supporters may not have caught on yet, and I imagine outing the real McCain will be a high priority of any opponent. I think the image of McCain as the friendly maverick may be what is relies on and once it is gone there will be trouble for his campaign.
 
they are voting for that cranky, ruthless bastard who will stir hell in Congress.

:thumbsup:

I was happy voting for McCain this week and glad he won NJ.

but to get to the OP... the reason the swift boaters were successful was not because of their attack itself, but rather, Kerry's response -- or lack thereof. I can't see any politician who's not retarded ever letting something like that happen, especially when the attack effectively comes from "some guy."
 
Originally posted by: UberNeuman
worldnetdaliy......

Like I said, the source blows but I have heard this making the rounds in talk radio...not that it means anything either other than it is out there...
 
Hmm, I think it very important that the nation judge the man based on what "T" said. I know I'm convinced.

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Story may be true, but anything by somebody named T that's not verifiable at all is not really worth any time, unless it becomes verifiable.
 
Originally posted by: loki8481
except the stimulus bill, which seemed to be smartly calculated to avoid the trap of the bill.

Calculated, with the help of Harry Reid. Any red flags raising yet? 😉
 
Originally posted by: sirjonk
Does Obama missing nearly twice as many votes as Clinton concern you? I'm guessing no:

Obama has missed about 40 percent, or 170 votes, and Clinton has missed 24 percent, or 108 votes, according to the DNC tally.

It ought to concern everyone that so many votes are being missed. But the two you cite have not missed as many votes as McCain has. Which is interesting, as the other 2 have been out nationwide campaigning for some time now. McCain was all but dead until the last month or so.

What the hell was he doing all that time? 😛

 
Originally posted by: Nitemare
McCain = crazy

Hillary = just pure evil

I will go with the crazy man

I'll go with the one who doesn't hold my party accountable for the wrong they do. A bad choice is a bad choice, but it shouldn't be done in the Republican Name. We've had enough of that under GWB.
 
Originally posted by: Nitemare
McCain = crazy

Hillary = just pure evil

I will go with the crazy man

Originally posted by: palehorse74
Originally posted by: Narmer
Originally posted by: palehorse74
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
I'm sure there has been plenty of man version of Monica's for Hillary over the years.

How many righties on here would stand in line to be next? :laugh:
Can I bring a baseball bat covered in glue and pieces of glass? I'm sure she'll love it!

That doesn't make any sense. What are you going to do with the bat, beat her?
ummm, nope, that wasn't the plan... then again, it was a sick joke. 😀

lighten up people! Remember, Hillary is Satan's spawn, so she'd probably enjoy it! Heck, she probably already has a bat just like it!

Hm. If I had to define pure evil, raping a woman with a glass coated baseball bat would probably be in the definition somewhere. If these are the people opposed to Hillary, and she's the evil one, I guess my moral compass is backwards.
 
Originally posted by: bozack
Originally posted by: UberNeuman
worldnetdaliy......

Like I said, the source blows but I have heard this making the rounds in talk radio...not that it means anything either other than it is out there...

Sorry, dude - that wasn't meant to dismiss your post. Just everytime I see a worldnetdaliy-related "news" item, I look at it and shake my head, knowing that the "TRUE BELIEVERS" will eat up any slop that feeds into their paranoia....

And I for one am sick of all of these Born Again Republicans bellowing about how they "must go back to the core of the party."

The BAR's have had the leadership they've wanted for 8 years (supported it, demonized the democrats, ignored many issues concerning their party), - it's only now, when they look to get stomped like a narc at a biker rally that they cry:

"Our values, our values, we must get back to our values!"

If they weren't about to lose the Presidency, they'd still be marching lockstep with the party and it would be business as usual....

 
Originally posted by: sirjonk
Originally posted by: Nitemare
McCain = crazy

Hillary = just pure evil

I will go with the crazy man

Originally posted by: palehorse74
Originally posted by: Narmer
Originally posted by: palehorse74
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
I'm sure there has been plenty of man version of Monica's for Hillary over the years.

How many righties on here would stand in line to be next? :laugh:
Can I bring a baseball bat covered in glue and pieces of glass? I'm sure she'll love it!

That doesn't make any sense. What are you going to do with the bat, beat her?
ummm, nope, that wasn't the plan... then again, it was a sick joke. 😀

lighten up people! Remember, Hillary is Satan's spawn, so she'd probably enjoy it! Heck, she probably already has a bat just like it!

Hm. If I had to define pure evil, raping a woman with a glass coated baseball bat would probably be in the definition somewhere. If these are the people opposed to Hillary, and she's the evil one, I guess my moral compass is backwards.

Cept she probably paid the rapist to do it...
 
Originally posted by: Nitemare
Originally posted by: sirjonk
Originally posted by: Nitemare
McCain = crazy

Hillary = just pure evil

I will go with the crazy man

Originally posted by: palehorse74
Originally posted by: Narmer
Originally posted by: palehorse74
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
I'm sure there has been plenty of man version of Monica's for Hillary over the years.

How many righties on here would stand in line to be next? :laugh:
Can I bring a baseball bat covered in glue and pieces of glass? I'm sure she'll love it!

That doesn't make any sense. What are you going to do with the bat, beat her?
ummm, nope, that wasn't the plan... then again, it was a sick joke. 😀

lighten up people! Remember, Hillary is Satan's spawn, so she'd probably enjoy it! Heck, she probably already has a bat just like it!

Hm. If I had to define pure evil, raping a woman with a glass coated baseball bat would probably be in the definition somewhere. If these are the people opposed to Hillary, and she's the evil one, I guess my moral compass is backwards.

Cept she probably paid the rapist to do it...

It'd still take a sick bastard to do it.
 
Pretty funny piece there, but did you crib it from The Onion? My favorite part-Bill and Hillary Clinton are paid assets of the left-leaning CIA.
 
What a bunch of hooey. While I find the idea of the CIA being a massive left-wing conspiracy, the whole story is too openly ridiculous to get any traction - this is roughly as credible as the guy who claims he had homosexual sex with Obama while Barack smoked crack, and even less credible than the Swifties.
 
If the Republicans are going to swiftboat McCain, they done missed the boat because Romney has dropped out of the race. Leaving just Huckabee in the race and without enough delegates to even think about stopping McCain.

My take, for all his warts and flaws, the GOP is stuck with McCain.
 
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