Is LIGER really possible? (hybrid of Tiger/Lion)

LOLyourFace

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Is it anatomically possible for their reproductive system to fertilize together?

nm.. answer is here Liger via Google

A new question... how is this possible? how far can you stretch sperm/egg compatibility between species? (by nature only, not aided by human technology of cloning)

because, certainly you can't have a Squirrel/Deer hybrid...
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HappyPuppy

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Aren't tigers and lions of the same species? Why shouldn't you be able to crossbreed them, eventually?
 

LOLyourFace

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Tigers and Lions are both cats (panthera). Same "general" species.

I know, I want a definite scientific answer.. something like.. "natural cross breeding possible within species that are 3 classes or less apart" or somethign like that.. u know what im saying..
 

aphex

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Originally posted by: LOLyourFace
i wonder if mogs are possible... (man/dog) :Q

ok i should stop watching Spaceballs :D

No but i know for a fact there are many Drewish Pricesses :D
 

SSP

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Yeah its possible. They had one in the Jay leno show. Its one big pus... err cat.

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Bignate603

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You can stretch the species a bit. Donkeys and Horses can produce sterile offspring (an a$$) even though they have a different number of chromosones.
 

gosstech

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Yes this is possible. I have visited the zoo in the link. I live right down the street from it.
 

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how is this possible?
It's possible because these two species are very closely related, so their DNA is (I presume but have no hard numbers) very similar.

There are plenty of examples of cross-species breeding (aka hybridization)-- especially with plants. Other examples involving animals are zebra + horse and camel + llama. As Bignate said, in almost all cases the offspring are sterile, this is because homologous chromosomes (that is, one from each parent) fail to pair up and segregate properly during meiosis (the process that forms sperm/egg). Human intervention was also required to induce mating in every case (AFAIK).

The plasticity of interspecies boundaries is often used by creationists in a lame attempt to advance their own classification system based on "kinds" (incidentally, I have never heard this term defined, if anyone can so enlighten me please do so).
how far can you stretch sperm/egg compatibility between species?
Nobody knows for certain becuase the limits have never been systematically pushed AFAIK, but you definitely won't see a human fly any time soon. :D;) It's not really a question of sex organ anatomy or the gametes themselves anyway, but rather the similarity of actual proteins inside those cells (which in turn depends up the DNA). Some proteins are remarkably conserved among species but others are not and require complementary proteins that they can properly bind to--they will not "fit" together if the two cross-breeding species are too different. Plus, some genes are unique to individual species.

A more significant issue is that many species have different numbers of chromosomes (large pieces of DNA)--for example chimpanzees have 48 and humans have 46, so if you were thinking of crossing them you would need to ensure that one copy of the chimpanzee's extra chromosome was enough for life (aka haplosufficiency), because the resulting offspring would have 47 chsms. You could try ape + chimpanzee since both have 48 chsms, but they are less closely related than humans and chimps.
 

The Dancing Peacock

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with how closely related chimps and humans are......

I don't want to see something like that at all, but scientifically, could it be done?
 

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I thought that if the genus was the same species could vary in some closely related species? And also, I belive that this creates an infertile animal, correct?

I know this works with coyotes and domestic dogs, making coydogs which are born infertile. The same is true with some sort of donkey or horse related animal (I thought it was a mule, but it doesn't sound right...)
 

SaturnX

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Originally posted by: stonecold3169
I thought that if the genus was the same species could vary in some closely related species? And also, I belive that this creates an infertile animal, correct?

I know this works with coyotes and domestic dogs, making coydogs which are born infertile. The same is true with some sort of donkey or horse related animal (I thought it was a mule, but it doesn't sound right...)

What you're saying is correct, and its when you breed a horse and donkey is when you get a mule, which is sterile.

If I'm not miskten, it's all a matter of genus, and species which makes cross breeding possible or not. Like mentioned above they need to be similar in order to have a sucessful cross breed.

--Mark