Is LGA1366 (socket B) to die out soon?: LGA1156 to get to 30 percent by year end -Fud

Apocalypse23

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LGA1156 to get to 30 percent by year's end

"Soc 775 at 60 percent during the same quarter

The most successful socket of Intel's recent past is the LGA 775 and this socket has accounted for some 79 percent of all Intel desktop CPUs in Q1 2010.

This trend won’t go down by much in Q2 as Intel expects that 72 percent of all CPUs in Q2 will again be socket 775. This platform still has a long life to live for and even in Q3 Intel plans that 66 percent of all CPU to sell to end up in the socket 775 environment. In Q4 2010 the company plans that the socket 775 part of the market will go down to a still predominant 60 percent.

The second most attractive socket is a newcomer, socket 1156 that got introduced in Q4 2009 with Lynnfield and in Q1 2010 with Clarkdale CPUs and in Q1 it already gained 16 percent of the market share. In Q2 2010 the market share of LGA 1156 will jump to 21, in Q3 grows to 26 percent and in the end, in Q4 2010 it will grow to quite impressive 33 percent.

This means that at least 33 + 1 percent will be Nehalem based CPUs which is not so bad after all.

The third most popular socket is the BGA or socket-less Atoms that are being sold directly to OEMs and in Q1, BGA was 5 percent of total market. In Q2 1010 it should grow to six percent and in Q3 and Q4 Intel plans that the growth will stop at 7 percent.

The least popular socket is the good old high-end LGA 1366 for Nehalem parts and this socket simply doesn’t grow at all. The plan is that some one percent will be the part of the market for these CPUs and it wont change for whole 2010, in all four quarters.

This is what Intel anticipates trough the 2010 and the plan can slightly deviate."


http://www.fudzilla.com/content/view/18488/1/

It looks like LGA1366 was not profitable for Intel, and it seems Sandybridge will be coming out on LGA1156/1155 boards mostly.
 
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aigomorla

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Sandy Bridge will be out b4 X68..

it was already decided a while back, because the X platform falls under enterprise.

When the enterprise sector gets a platform revision we will see the X68.
 
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Pin Count, Thermal Design Power (TDP)
With all that additional wiring, you can expect pin count to go up. Indeed, Sandy Bridge-E will be made available with no less than 2011 "pads" on the underbelly of its Flip Chip Land Grid Array (FCLGA) package. TDP stays within the 130W power envelope shared by its Gulftown predecessor. Maximal power at the C6 power state would be capped at 23W.
The Sandy Bridge-E CPU packaging will measure 52.5mm x 45mm. The FCLGA2011 Socket body will be sized at an overall 58.5mm x 51mm, and would be manufactured by the usual suspects - Tyco & Foxconn. The RCBF5 Reference Thermal Solution will be provided as the default Heatsink Fan (HSF). It is likely that a heatpipe thermal solution (similar to the one provided with the retail Core i7-980X) will be bundled with the highest end Sandy Bridge-E processor. Due to the extremely large surface area of the FCLGA2011 package, future FCLGA2011 HSFs would all use four threaded screw attachments for mounting. This is necessary not just for quality thermal transfer, but also for proper electrical contact.

http://vr-zone.com/articles/a-look-...tform--sandy-bridge-e--waimea-bay/8877-2.html
 

faxon

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damn, i hope when sandy launches they have at least one reasonably priced 1366 CPU for it as well. i was planning to get a sandy bridge platform around launch, but i wanted to move from a dual to a triple crossfire setup with my 3 5870s on that platform, and get a fermi revision for my second box i pull the 3rd 5870 out of. will just have to see what happens then, im perfectly happy with what performance i have now anyway, i might just wait it out till x68 or not, depending on what intel does
 

Maximilian

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Boo! You can pry my 1366 mobo from my cold dead fingers :)

I read that there was an LGA 1155 coming for sandy bridge, replacing both 1156/1366?
 

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It looks like LGA1366 was not profitable for Intel, and it seems Sandybridge will be coming out on LGA1156/1155 boards mostly.

This is what happens when you intentionally split the market between two sockets. It would have been much better if Intel had a unified socket architecture.

Edit: A slight revision on my perspective. It is normal to have a different socket for enterprise/server chips compared to the desktop chips. AMD does this too, with "socket F". So the consumer version of 1366 was really just a slight additional cost to the server platform's R&D.
 
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RussianSensation

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I honestly think neither of the current platforms will be long lived. With Intel, it has always been chipset revisions that are most important not the socket itself. For instance, Socket 775 lived for a long time but how much chipset revisions did we have?

Even if Intel were to somehow use socket 1156 instead of 1155 for Sandy, it will likely require 6 series chipset to go along with it. That's how they make $$$! From an upgradability perspective, AMD is the superior platform hands down.
 

aigomorla

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One again 1366 = enterprise + ultra high end.

Wait for the enterprise to get an upgrade, and we get a X68 upgrade as well.

Enterprise got gulftown, so we got gulftown.
We are now following enterprise... and not consumer lines.

Personally i prefer enterprise lines.. because when they say X is the release date, unless something terribly is wrong, it gets released on the date initially promised.

Intel takes there enterprise sector a lot more seriously.
 
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PsiStar

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They both suffer from excessive stray capacitance & inherently slow the system. They will die together.
 

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i had a feeling that 1156 and 1366 would be short lived sockets, just like AMD's lame 754, and retrospectively, the 939.
 

formulav8

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Socket 754 lived on for quite a while thanks to the Sempron cpu's and the Venice based Athlons.

AMD majorly dropped the ball with s939. That was susposed to subplant s754 and here s754 out lasted s939!

One things for sure though, AM2 has lived a very long time! I have a original 6100 chipset mobo that still runs x4 core cpu's no prob. Can't say that about Intel's, even the s775 socket doesn't have that longevity.


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IntelUser2000

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One again 1366 = enterprise + ultra high end.

How is S1366 "Enterprise" again? I could understand for Socket 1567, but Socket 1366 is not "Enterprise". Possibly "kiddy Enterprise". :)

I think VR-Zone has something wrong here. PCWatch was reporting there would be S136x based Sandy Bridges also.

I could see them doing this way though:
Ultra-super high end: 4 channel/S2011
Ultra high end: 3 channel/S136x
Mainstream to high end: 2 channel/S115x