Is Kabini 3850 enough for web surfing and media?

[ShintaiDK]

Uhh, hate to break it to ya Shintai, but you need to get your eyes checked. Those boards are microATX, they have two slots. Seems to be all the rage these days.

Wow I didnt see that. Thats an odd looking mATX. Well technically they aint even mATX.

 

[ShintaiDK]

Are there any benchmarks that compare the Haswell Celeron (G1840 in this case) with the Kabini?

Anandtechs bench doesnt have the G1840. But its basicly between these 2:
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1224?vs=1257
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1224?vs=1256

The G1620 is Ivy based.

 

[-sandro-]

Anandtechs bench doesnt have the G1840. But its basicly between these 2:
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1224?vs=1257
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1224?vs=1256

The G1620 is Ivy based.

I found this with the G1820 and I'm almost convinced to push for this configuration, the G1820 (slower than G1840) basically outperforms the AM1 5350 (faster than 5150) in every situation! Even gaming!

 

[ShintaiDK]

I found this with the G1820 and I'm almost convinced to push for this configuration, the G1820 (slower than G1840) basically outperforms the AM1 5350 (faster than 5150) in every situation! Even gaming!

Correct.
http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2377574

 

[monstercameron]

lol save money the performance is already low enough. Get the sempron and an uber cheap motherboard.

 

[VirtualLarry]

lol save money the performance is already low enough. Get the sempron and an uber cheap motherboard.

AMD are budget for a reason - they cannot compete on performance with Intel.

Edit: Speaking of the CPU side, of course. On the GPU side, they are (barely) superior.

 

[bononos]

I found this with the G1820 and I'm almost convinced to push for this configuration, the G1820 (slower than G1840) basically outperforms the AM1 5350 (faster than 5150) in every situation! Even gaming!

Its only faster in gaming if graphics cards are used otherwise Kabini is way faster in integrated graphics. You get what you pay for but I think its enough for sims3.
The real advantage of AMD kabini is for very small pc's using laptop power bricks for the psu driving down the total price furthur.

 

[ShintaiDK]

Its only faster in gaming if graphics cards are used otherwise Kabini is way faster in integrated graphics. You get what you pay for but I think its enough for sims3.

Now is it?

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2377574

You greatly overestimate the 128SP

 

[mikk]

Haswell GT1 has 10EUs, a 66% increase over the previous generation. On pure speed an Athlon isn't faster, in most benchmarks they are slower. But AMD has better drivers.

 

[monstercameron]

At these performance levels, there ain't much "graphics" happening. My recommendation is to buy cheap.

 

[-sandro-]

Its only faster in gaming if graphics cards are used otherwise Kabini is way faster in integrated graphics. You get what you pay for but I think its enough for sims3.
The real advantage of AMD kabini is for very small pc's using laptop power bricks for the psu driving down the total price furthur.

are you sure about this? If you see the xbitlabs benchmarks I linked where only integrated graphics are used the Kabini is destroyed by Haswell.

edit: I forgot the link in the other post http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/athlon-5350-sempron-3850_7.html#sect0

 

[monstercameron]

are you sure about this? If you see the xbitlabs benchmarks I linked where only integrated graphics are used the Kabini is destroyed by Haswell.

edit: I forgot the link in the other post http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/athlon-5350-sempron-3850_7.html#sect0

yeah a 50w tdp intel vs 25w kabini...might as well go cheap richland.

 

[-sandro-]

yeah a 50w tdp intel vs 25w kabini...might as well go cheap richland.

Mmm yeah OK but the point here was the price/performance ratio, power usage was never mentioned. Considering the Haswell G1840 costs €6 more than Athlon 5150 but you get 2-3 times the performance I don't see why Kabini even exists

 

[monstercameron]

Mmm yeah OK but the point here was the price/performance ratio, power usage was never mentioned. Considering the Haswell G1840 costs €6 more than Athlon 5150 but you get 2-3 times the performance I don't see why Kabini even exists

it exists because it uses less power. If you a just browsing the sempron is adequate, if gaming then Richland could work. Intel has a faster cpu but when its wasted on JavaScript and/or home office workloads then I don't think its worth it. In the end though buy cheap.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboD...=Combo.1801232

 

[-sandro-]

it exists because it uses less power. If you a just browsing the sempron is adequate, if gaming then Richland could work. Intel has a faster cpu but when its sated on JavaScript and/or home office workloads then I don't think its worth it. In the end though buy cheap.

Mmmm what? Have you seen the browsing and javascript performance? Kabini is way behind!

 

[monstercameron]

Mmmm what? Have you seen the browsing and javascript performance? Kabini is way behind!

try again, I said Intel has a faster cpu.

 

[Erenhardt]

are you sure about this? If you see the xbitlabs benchmarks I linked where only integrated graphics are used the Kabini is destroyed by Haswell.

edit: I forgot the link in the other post http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/athlon-5350-sempron-3850_7.html#sect0

Mmm yeah OK but the point here was the price/performance ratio, power usage was never mentioned. Considering the Haswell G1840 costs €6 more than Athlon 5150 but you get 2-3 times the performance I don't see why Kabini even exists

Well then. Definetely go with A6-6400k. Going by the numbers you posted, it trashes haswell in anything igpu.
http://hwbot.org/hardware/processor/a6_6400k/
OC that badboy to 4.5 GHz and you have a winner for below $40 on ebay.

 

[Sweepr]

are you sure about this? If you see the xbitlabs benchmarks I linked where only integrated graphics are used the Kabini is destroyed by Haswell.

edit: I forgot the link in the other post http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/athlon-5350-sempron-3850_7.html#sect0

Haswell offers unmatched CPU performance at that price point, and you get pretty decent graphics on top of that. IMHO you made the right choice. You could also upgrade to a Core i3/i5/7 in the future if you ever need more performance, or add a cheap graphics card for some serious gaming (Celeron G1820 can push fast mainstream dGPUs unlike some competitors).

More tests here: http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2377574

 

[-sandro-]

OK wait now. I just checked for the same price as the Haswell Celeron G1840 I can get the A4-6300. Will this perform better in graphics and applications? Forget the power usage.
Are there benchmarks that compare Haswell to Richland?

 

[Sweepr]

OK wait now. I just checked for the same price as the Haswell Celeron G1840 I can get the A4-6300. Will this perform better in graphics and applications? Forget the power usage.
Are there benchmarks that compare Haswell to Richland?

Try this: http://benchmarks-tests.com/cpu_processors/amd_a4-6300_vs_intel_celeron_g1820

And get the Haswell.

 

[ShintaiDK]

OK wait now. I just checked for the same price as the Haswell Celeron G1840 I can get the A4-6300. Will this perform better in graphics and applications? Forget the power usage.
Are there benchmarks that compare Haswell to Richland?

It will not perform better in applications than the Celeron G1840. Graphics wise its unlikely that it will do any better. Still 128SP and from a previous generation.

 

[-sandro-]

Try this: http://benchmarks-tests.com/cpu_processors/amd_a4-6300_vs_intel_celeron_g1820

And get the Haswell.

It will not perform better in applications than the Celeron G1840. Graphics wise its unlikely that it will do any better. Still 128SP and from a previous generation.

It looks much slower in applications (I wonder what the hell AMD does that with +1Ghz per core can't even reach Intel!) but for graphics it leaves Haswell in the dust right? I'm talking about integrated graphics of course...is Radeon R9 270X = HD8370D?

 

[Erenhardt]

It looks much slower in applications (I wonder what the hell AMD does that with +1Ghz per core can't even reach Intel!) but for graphics it leaves Haswell in the dust right? I'm talking about integrated graphics of course...is Radeon R9 270X = HD8370D?

r9 270x is $200 GPU

 

[Sweepr]

It looks much slower in applications (I wonder what the hell AMD does that with +1Ghz per core can't even reach Intel!) but for graphics it leaves Haswell in the dust right?

It doesn't. It's a 128 SPs iGPU based on an older architecture than Kabini (128 SPs VLIW4 vs Kabini's 128 GCN cores).

 

[-sandro-]

Mmm OK then Haswell it is, I don't see why that site compared Intel integrated graphics with a discrete GPU.