Is Jesus a liberal or a conservative?

[Moonbeam]

Sounds like the ultimate troll post doesn't it?

Actually, personally, I will be interested in what the more serious of you have to say. How we go about harmonizing the spiritual with daily life is, I think, a rather important responsibility.

I suppose the truth about this is just as relative as the individual points of view. Since I am, however, not very well steeped in Christian doctrine, my natural assumption that He would be a liberal, like me, could be mistakened. I could even say that the reason I am a liberal is because i WAS exposed, to some small degree, to His teaching as a child. It always seemed to me that he cared more for those who were down, like the Democrats, rather than those who had it made. Your thoughts?

 

[BA]

If he was still in it, he'd probably be rolling in his grave at being used in politics.

 

[DirkBelig]

He preached compassion and charity to those less well-off, BUT He certainly DID NOT say, "Take money from Peter, skim some off for yourself and give a little to Paul, but only if he falls into a 'targeted group'."

That's how the Liberals have warped religion (which they otherwise despise) into flummoxing the sheep into going along with their massive government Ponzi schemes. They bully people into coughing up the cash "for the children" by calling them "selfish and greedy" for not wanting to feed the hungry, blah-yadda-whatever.

God is a Republican.
Santa Claus is a Democrat.

There is no Santa Claus.

 

[noxipoo]

you sound so rightious with your god is a republican speech. its almost sad. there is no polititcs for jesus.

 

[KarsinTheHutt]

All that matters is what YOU stand for, not what someone else stands for!

 

[Paladinexe]

Christ is the center and the perimeter for everything. There is no left or right for him. There are no "politics" as we know them other than what we have created.

 

[Windogg]

I'M JESUS CHRIST!!!!

How do I know? People tell me all the time. In fact just last week I went bar hopping and got totally blitzed. Each time I went back I was told, "JESUS CHRIST YOU'RE BACK AGAIN!?!?!?!"

 

[etech]

Moonbeam,
"It always seemed to me that he cared more for those who were down, like the Democrats,"

You have a basic fatal flaw in your assumption. The democrats do not "care more those who were down" then any other group. They like to pretend they do for political reasons.

 

[DirkBelig]

I didn't footnote my quote properly. It's from P.J. O'Rourke's "Parliament of Whores" and the intro has this whole bit about why God is one thing and Santa is the other. What I posted was the punchline. It make sense in context.

Sorry for the confusion.

 

[Moonbeam]

etech, there are, I think a couple of things wrong with your statement too. In the first place there is a stereotype that Republicans care for the rich and Democrats care for the poor. Where there's smoke perhaps there could be fire. I don't think these label's got tagged on without some reality behind that. I think what you meant to say was that deomcratic polititians pretend they care. If you mean that democratic voters pretend to care, I would disagree. I would agree though that I can't say they care more, only, perhaps in a different way.

I notice a trend to wall Jesus off from politics. perhaps that is justified. Maybe it's a way to avoid confronting inconsistencies. Can't say for sure. But I can't see any reason why your religious belief shouldn't inform your politics, which is the question I'm really asking.

 

[~zonker~]

Jesus was a radical. If he showed up today, I'm certain we would all view Him as a radical yet again....

 

[Zucchini]

oh jeez. ok then. jesus preached compassion right? republicans definetly don't have this.. they may try with their new bs compassionate conservative image. Gotta love how they say they will "tolerate" certain groups. Of course what they mean is that they will restrain their hate

 

[Moonbeam]

Zonker, radical right or radical left?

Some truth there Red, but maybe not totally so. Some good people vote, I hope.

 

[Raspewtin]

I don't know much about Jesus, but the Bible's I've read portrayed Jesus (if he wasn't a dreamed up marketing icon) as someone who had fairly liberal ideas for his time. At least that was my interpretation of it.

 

[3615buck]

Liberal ideas ?
He said you had to give up everything to follow him ! No money, no property, nothing...
Is this your vision of liberalism ?

 

[Zucchini]

Well he accepted people that were considered immoral and did not judge them right? i dunno.. no conservative at the least.

 

[Stark]

I guess it depends on the standard you were referring to. In his day, Jesus was clearly put off by the overly conservative, hypocritic, religious leaders of his time. In that case, he was somewhat liberal. Compared to those following the pagan gods, however, Jesus was very conservative. So how about the label "moderate."

 

[Shuxclams]

Everyone has thier own vision and belief in who Jesus is/was, everyone has thier own vision and belief in what a liberal/conservative is, who knows which idea is right?











SHUX

 

[pidge]

Jesus would be:
e)None of the above

John 18:36-"Jesus answered:'My kingdom is no part of this world'".

Jesus would not be involved in politics. All of his teachings involved reliance on God for your needs. He felt the governments were ruled by Satan and therefore he didn't want his followers being part of this world and its politics.

 

[stomp]

Jesus is portrayed as a flower child of the time... and a lot of the ideas are a tad "hippy"... that's why I'd like to chill with Jesus

 

[Zucchini]

ohhh man... that was good hehe

 

[~zonker~]

Some of the more 'radical' stuff...

MT 10:35 For I have come to turn " `a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law--

MT 3:7 But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees coming to where he was baptizing, he said to them: "You brood of vipers! Who warned you to flee from the coming wrath?

Imagine walking into a Roman Catholic Church or a Synagoge and talking like this to the Priests...

MT 12:6 I tell you that one greater than the temple is here.

Go tell that to the pope and see what they call you...

Jesus was trying to make a radical change in the way the Israelites worshiped and related to God. Along the way He included all people in the relationship, which was also radical. God was the Israelites God. Jesus made Himself and God available to everyone...

A very radical religious reformer to say the least, and a liberal to boot, IMO. They were for stoning folks that Jesus forgave.

 

[ThundercatHO]

Jesus is a Jew......

 

[imajew]

I'm a jew.....











no seriously, look at my nick.....

 

[Isla]

I'm with ~zonker~ on this one...

Jesus was totally radical!