Is Ivy Bridge Getting Update Later In Year?

[pittguy578]

I am torn between the 3570 and the 3770. I want to upgrade my system to do light video editing..the reason I am torn is the 3770 is only $100 more than the 3570 at NewEgg..I thought the 3570 was going to be significantly cheaper. I read somewhere in forums where Ivy Bridge might get some kind of update later in the year? Any idea what that will be?

 

[Don Karnage]

1. What processor do you have now?
2. No update will be coming for Ivy Bridge
3. Tigerdirect has the 3770k for 309.99, 3570k for 209.99

 

[gevorg]

maybe a better stepping, if anything at all

 

[pittguy578]

1. What processor do you have now?
2. No update will be coming for Ivy Bridge
3. Tigerdirect has the 3770k for 309.99, 3570k for 209.99

I5 750 is my current processor..I just checked out Tiger..They may have sold out of both of them..not showing up in a search.

 

[Kenmitch]

I5 750 is my current processor..I just checked out Tiger..They may have sold out of both of them..not showing up in a search.

Front page banner on right side of home page for me.

3570k

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3770k

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Make sure you use the coupon codes on the page

 

[Soccerman06]

Only thing I could think of would be a stepping or a higher clocked version like the 2600 -> 2700. I think they made canned IBEE but I may be wrong so the next cpu inline is hanswel.

 

[BallaTheFeared]

Ivy Bridge E, but probably nothing of importance for 1155, which is a dead socket in a year.

 

[Concillian]

Ivy Bridge E, but probably nothing of importance for 1155, which is a dead socket in a year.

Do people actually have any expectation of upgrading a CPU on an existing motherboard? I always assume that a motherboard is, for all intents and purposes, married to the CPU. If an upgrade comes along, great, but it's happened for me maybe once in the last 20 years that there was a worthwhile CPU upgrade available for an existing motherboard.

I don't think how "dead" or "dead end" a socket is matters all that much.

 

[BallaTheFeared]

I dunno, I ran a 1090T on an AM2+ board.


I believe Intel wanted a new Socket for Ivy, can't say for sure, but it wouldn't surprise me.

You're interpreting what as said as good/bad, when it's simply stated as a fact.

There are SB boards which have not received a bios update to allow IB on them, so for some who adopted SB last year, it never even made it to IB.

 

[T_Yamamoto]

Intel likes to have a new socket for every new CPU.

 

[Lonyo]

Intel likes to have a new socket for every new CPU.

As I have said before, and I'm sure others must have too, sockets are pretty much meaningless.
You can have the same socket for 10 years, but that doesn't mean a CPU bought at the end of that 10 years will work in a motherboard bought at the start.
Chipsets and sockets go hand in hand. It's better to change socket regularly if you're not going to have support anyway because the chipset isn't capable.
It makes it much easier to know whether things might work or not. Most socket 1155 boards, with a BIOS update, will support Ivybridge.
If they kept socket 1155 for the next gen mainstream processor, that doesn't mean it would work in ANY existing motherboard, because it will probably require a new chipset.
Changing sockets makes things easier for US.


As for the OP, at best it would be a minor speed boost, perhaps some better overclocking, but no real overhaul that will make any sigificant differences.

 

[ShintaiDK]

Keeping LGA1155 is also impossible with Haswell/Broadwell when the VRM moves ondie.

And lets be honest, keeping the socket havent exactly turned out well for AMD.

Trinity also uses FM2 thats incompatible with Llanos FM1.

Its just silly to keep advancements back so 0.1% can do inplace upgrade on an old board.

And to the OP, I wouldnt expect Ivy to get an update at all, even stepping. The only change might be a slight 100Mhz speedbin increase.

 

[Denithor]

You have an i5 750 and want an IB? Why? Just keep that i5 for another year and do a real upgrade to Haswell this time next year. The 'tock' upgrades are always more worth doing than the 'tick' ones...

 

[aaksheytalwar]

You have an i5 750 and want an IB? Why? Just keep that i5 for another year and do a real upgrade to Haswell this time next year. The 'tock' upgrades are always more worth doing than the 'tick' ones...

I went from 860 to 2600k and it was well worth it. 750 to 3770k is going to be big.
Going from a 860 at 3.4 to 2600k at 4.2 is nearly a 40-50% increase in performance. going from a stock 750 to 3770k 4.5 is going to like double your performance.

 

[amenx]

Going from a 860 at 3.4 to 2600k at 4.2 is nearly a 40-50% increase in performance. going from a stock 750 to 3770k 4.5 is going to like double your performance.

Of course comparing stock (or near stock) older chips to overclocked SB will show an appreciable diff. Compare at same clocks and it will be much less. Lynnfield is no slouch even vs SB when clocks are even and up to 4 threads.

Re something coming out later this year:

http://www.fudzilla.com/home/item/26970-faster-unlocked-ivy-bridge-possible-in-q3-2012

Its fudz but fwiw.

 

[Don Karnage]

Of course comparing stock (or near stock) older chips to overclocked SB will show an appreciable diff. Compare at same clocks and it will be much less. Lynnfield is no slouch even vs SB when clocks are even and up to 4 threads.

Re something coming out later this year:

http://www.fudzilla.com/home/item/26970-faster-unlocked-ivy-bridge-possible-in-q3-2012

Its fudz but fwiw.

Lynnfield maxes out around 4.2Ghz so you can't compare same clocks

 

[ElFenix]

Lynnfield maxes out around 4.2Ghz so you can't compare same clocks

depending on what you're doing, it doesn't matter much.

at gaming, a 2500k is about 10% better than a 750. and the 2500k has has nearly a 25% clock advantage even before turbo is considered.

unfortunately anandtech doesn't have a 3570k in bench, but there is a 3770k. comparing the 2500k to the 3770k, most of the difference is probably within the margin of error.

so, we're back to the clock difference being the main driver.

and it took 25% clock increase to get 10% before. compare a maxed out lynnfield (4.2GHz?) to a maxed out ivy (4.5GHz?) and i doubt the difference is more than 20% in most games. and the higher the resolution, the less the difference.


iow, it may be better to spend the money on a graphics card if your main intensive activity is gaming.

 

[Don Karnage]

depending on what you're doing, it doesn't matter much.

at gaming, a 2500k is about 10% better than a 750. and the 2500k has has nearly a 25% clock advantage even before turbo is considered.

unfortunately anandtech doesn't have a 3570k in bench, but there is a 3770k. comparing the 2500k to the 3770k, most of the difference is probably within the margin of error.

so, we're back to the clock difference being the main driver.

and it took 25% clock increase to get 10% before. compare a maxed out lynnfield (4.2GHz?) to a maxed out ivy (4.5GHz?) and i doubt the difference is more than 20% in most games. and the higher the resolution, the less the difference.


iow, it may be better to spend the money on a graphics card if your main intensive activity is gaming.

Ivy isn't maxed out at 4.5Ghz my friend. 4.5Ghz is just for the cautious ones who want the processor to last over 3 years and are afraid of higher temps.

 

[pittguy578]

You have an i5 750 and want an IB? Why? Just keep that i5 for another year and do a real upgrade to Haswell this time next year. The 'tock' upgrades are always more worth doing than the 'tick' ones...

I just actually want to treat myself..I had a rough last few months. Some people gamble/hunt/fish/get drunk...I stay at home safe and play on the computer.

 

[Axon]

I just actually want to treat myself..I had a rough last few months. Some people gamble/hunt/fish/get drunk...I stay at home safe and play on the computer.

If that's your reasoning (and I can appreciate that, believe me) and you have the funds, why not pick up the 3770k then? Also, Microcenter has a heck of a combo deal right now ($280ish for an 3570k and a motherboard), but not everyone has one within range.

However, I must say that I cannot see an appreciable difference between my 4.0 i5 750 and my 4.6 i7 2600k in gaming. I'm sure there IS one, but I can't really tell.

 

[Dave3000]

Do people actually have any expectation of upgrading a CPU on an existing motherboard? I always assume that a motherboard is, for all intents and purposes, married to the CPU. If an upgrade comes along, great, but it's happened for me maybe once in the last 20 years that there was a worthwhile CPU upgrade available for an existing motherboard.

I don't think how "dead" or "dead end" a socket is matters all that much.

Well I hope my i7 3930k and X79 lasts at least 2 years. I spent so much money on them that I hope it pays off to keep from upgrading in less than 2 years. I actually had an X58 with an i7 920 and kept the same board and upgraded to an i7 960 about 2 years later and could have done fine with sticking with the i7 960 even right now, and I noticed that my upgrade to P67 and i7 2600k didn't offer much of an improvement to my i7 960. I think that X79 has lots of future potential because of the memory bandwidth and support for CPUs with more than 4 cores, and PCIe 3.0 without dropping to 8x when 2 PCIe x16 slots are used. But then again I might just be trying to make myself feel optimistic after spending the money on my i7 3930k system.