Is it wrong to want to RAID 0 your USB thumbdrives?

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what would you use to do that?

and wouldn't it have pretty much no effect since the usb bus would be saturated anyway?
 

imported_Phil

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Originally posted by: quakefiend420
what would you use to do that?

and wouldn't it have pretty much no effect since the usb bus would be saturated anyway?

Ding a ding a dingalingaling.
 

Proletariat

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ITs pretty ghey in my opinion.

In fact it makes my head hurt.

But then again I don't even know why I'm up this early.
 

Fullmetal Chocobo

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Originally posted by: dighn
do it to level up your geek status

No way. A geek would know better. Doing a RAID 0 array with thumb drives would lower your geek rating in my book...
 

ForumMaster

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riad 0 requires the drives to be inserted at all times. this is dumb since it defeats the point of a thunb drive. you'd also doubtly get any advantage. the USB bus is slower then the IDE or SATA and there would be not advantage to it. conclusion: yes. it is wrong to want raid 0 for your thumb drives. it's gay.
 

DivideBYZero

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Originally posted by: Phil
Originally posted by: quakefiend420
what would you use to do that?

and wouldn't it have pretty much no effect since the usb bus would be saturated anyway?

Ding a ding a dingalingaling.

You are assuming that a USB key will have a transfer rate which is the same as the maximum of the bus. This is not so.

FYI
 

imported_Phil

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Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
Originally posted by: Phil
Originally posted by: quakefiend420
what would you use to do that?

and wouldn't it have pretty much no effect since the usb bus would be saturated anyway?

Ding a ding a dingalingaling.

You are assuming that a USB key will have a transfer rate which is the same as the maximum of the bus. This is not so.

FYI

Shutup, you're making me look bad.
 

DivideBYZero

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Originally posted by: Phil
Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
Originally posted by: Phil
Originally posted by: quakefiend420
what would you use to do that?

and wouldn't it have pretty much no effect since the usb bus would be saturated anyway?

Ding a ding a dingalingaling.

You are assuming that a USB key will have a transfer rate which is the same as the maximum of the bus. This is not so.

FYI

Shutup, you're making me look bad.


:D
 

smack Down

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Originally posted by: ForumMaster
riad 0 requires the drives to be inserted at all times. this is dumb since it defeats the point of a thunb drive. you'd also doubtly get any advantage. the USB bus is slower then the IDE or SATA and there would be not advantage to it. conclusion: yes. it is wrong to want raid 0 for your thumb drives. it's gay.

You wouldn't need them plug in at all times. Just because a hard drive is faster doesn't mean you can see a performance boost on the USB sticks.
 

DivideBYZero

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Originally posted by: smack Down
Originally posted by: ForumMaster
riad 0 requires the drives to be inserted at all times. this is dumb since it defeats the point of a thunb drive. you'd also doubtly get any advantage. the USB bus is slower then the IDE or SATA and there would be not advantage to it. conclusion: yes. it is wrong to want raid 0 for your thumb drives. it's gay.

You wouldn't need them plug in at all times. Just because a hard drive is faster doesn't mean you can see a performance boost on the USB sticks.

Eh? If you pull one of the set out you essentiall break the RAID setup. You need all drives in a 0 setup or the whole array is broken.
 

smack Down

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Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
Originally posted by: smack Down
Originally posted by: ForumMaster
riad 0 requires the drives to be inserted at all times. this is dumb since it defeats the point of a thunb drive. you'd also doubtly get any advantage. the USB bus is slower then the IDE or SATA and there would be not advantage to it. conclusion: yes. it is wrong to want raid 0 for your thumb drives. it's gay.

You wouldn't need them plug in at all times. Just because a hard drive is faster doesn't mean you can see a performance boost on the USB sticks.

Eh? If you pull one of the set out you essentiall break the RAID setup. You need all drives in a 0 setup or the whole array is broken.

So then you pull them all out. You would still be able to move them from PC to PC.
 

Rubycon

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Well it could have a purpose from a security standpoint. Just like high security systems need BOTH keys to function one would need BOTH keys inserted to access their files. ;)
 

jiwq

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Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
Originally posted by: Phil
Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
Originally posted by: Phil
Originally posted by: quakefiend420
what would you use to do that?

and wouldn't it have pretty much no effect since the usb bus would be saturated anyway?

Ding a ding a dingalingaling.

You are assuming that a USB key will have a transfer rate which is the same as the maximum of the bus. This is not so.

FYI

Shutup, you're making me look bad.


:D

Here is another article trying to do the same thing, but with pics:
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jlee

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Originally posted by: smack Down
Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
Originally posted by: smack Down
Originally posted by: ForumMaster
riad 0 requires the drives to be inserted at all times. this is dumb since it defeats the point of a thunb drive. you'd also doubtly get any advantage. the USB bus is slower then the IDE or SATA and there would be not advantage to it. conclusion: yes. it is wrong to want raid 0 for your thumb drives. it's gay.

You wouldn't need them plug in at all times. Just because a hard drive is faster doesn't mean you can see a performance boost on the USB sticks.

Eh? If you pull one of the set out you essentiall break the RAID setup. You need all drives in a 0 setup or the whole array is broken.

So then you pull them all out. You would still be able to move them from PC to PC.

Assuming the other PC could recognize a RAID array, rather than two separate USB drives with garbled data on them.. :p
 

Falloutboy

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what they need to do is comeup with one of the gigabyte ramdrive thingys but for SD cards. they are gettingt o the point where you could get 5 2gb and have a sizable enough drive to make it useful, and 5 SDs raided together should be pretty damn fast (Panasonic uses the same method for there P2 professional video format)
 

Looney

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Pretty stupid. Sounds to me like somebody isn't happy with who they are, so they're trying to pretend they're more than what they are (in this case geekiness)... but you're so far from being a geek that you have no fvcking clue what you're talking about, and are only making a fool of yourself.
 

imported_Phil

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Originally posted by: Falloutboy
what they need to do is comeup with one of the gigabyte ramdrive thingys but for SD cards. they are gettingt o the point where you could get 5 2gb and have a sizable enough drive to make it useful, and 5 SDs raided together should be pretty damn fast (Panasonic uses the same method for there P2 professional video format)

You do know that SD cards (and indeed all flash memory-based stuff) has a limited amount of write cycles, yeah?
 

Looney

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Originally posted by: Phil
Originally posted by: Falloutboy
what they need to do is comeup with one of the gigabyte ramdrive thingys but for SD cards. they are gettingt o the point where you could get 5 2gb and have a sizable enough drive to make it useful, and 5 SDs raided together should be pretty damn fast (Panasonic uses the same method for there P2 professional video format)

You do know that SD cards (and indeed all flash memory-based stuff) has a limited amount of write cycles, yeah?

WHAT?!
 

imported_Phil

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Originally posted by: Looney
Originally posted by: Phil
Originally posted by: Falloutboy
what they need to do is comeup with one of the gigabyte ramdrive thingys but for SD cards. they are gettingt o the point where you could get 5 2gb and have a sizable enough drive to make it useful, and 5 SDs raided together should be pretty damn fast (Panasonic uses the same method for there P2 professional video format)

You do know that SD cards (and indeed all flash memory-based stuff) has a limited amount of write cycles, yeah?

WHAT?!

Ya rly. I forget the exact limit but it's supposed to be fairly high. If you were using an array of SD cards for storage, I'd be worried. Regular RAM is okay, but flash RAM? Hmm.

An often untold story about flash memory is the limited number of write cycles it tolerates. That's because electrical charges provide permanent retention of transistor states. These charges are isolated by oxide layers, which help maintain consistent state, but also dissipate over time. Semiconductor makers claim as many as 100,000 write cycles for flash memory, but a little skepticism is probably well-advised.
http://tomshardware.co.uk/2005/08/05/when_size_really_matters/page2.html

I've seen this many other times in other places but this was the only one I could drag up quickly.