Is it wrong to use someone elses wireless Internet?

[tnitsuj]

I am staying at a friends place for a few months with no internet/cable etc. So I plug in the laptop, crank up the netstumbler and find 3 wireless networks unsecured that I can use.

Is it unethical to use someones unsecured AP?

 

[Juice Box]

ha no, Go for it. When i go downtown, I free load off other ppls net all the time

 

[HappyPuppy]

Yes.

 

[Tiamat]

No, but it is unethical to hack into someones "secured" network. If someone is dumb enough to leave their wireless lan open to the public, then use it. Just dont be an ass and use bit torrent

 

[Gibson486]

i should try this.....

 

[DingDingDao]

Use it. I do this whenever I travel. If they don't want people to use their wireless, they should encrypt it.

 

[amdskip]

Depends on what your ethic standards are set at.

 

[ravana]

Yes, it is.

 

[CVSiN]

I just use MAC filters... my network may look unsecured but it denies all but my MAC address.. works very well.

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: CVSiN
I just use MAC filters... my network may look unsecured but it denies all but my MAC address.. works very well.

Because MAC addresses can't be spoofed. :roll:

 

[tnitsuj]

Originally posted by: CVSiN
I just use MAC filters... my network may look unsecured but it denies all but my MAC address.. works very well.

Couldn't you spoof the Mac address pretty easily? I am pretty sure WEP doesn't encrypt the layer 2 stuff.

 

[Deeko]

If they leave it unsecure, its fair game.

 

[Juice Box]

ok ok guys, this conversation is moving into the networking forum area..... lets keep is dumb in here, afterall this is ATOT

 

[K1052]

No, IMO.

They are responsible for for securing their network.

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: digitalsnare
ok ok guys, this conversatio is moving into the GH thread area..... lets keep is dumb in here

Huh? There's no GH conversation going on. Networking maybe, but not GH.

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: K1052
No, IMO.

They are responsible for for securing their network.

I feel the same way about cars, houses, and girlfriends.

 

[Bootprint]

Originally posted by: digitalsnare
ok ok guys, this conversatio is moving into the GH thread area..... lets keep is dumb in here

Ok, is it wrong for me to run arround with a 2.4G phone trying to jam wireless signals?

 

[Tremulant]

Originally posted by: Bootprint

Originally posted by: digitalsnare
ok ok guys, this conversatio is moving into the GH thread area..... lets keep is dumb in here

Ok, is it wrong for me to run arround with a 2.4G phone trying to jam wireless signals?

rofl

 

[K1052]

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: K1052
No, IMO.

They are responsible for for securing their network.

I feel the same way about cars, houses, and girlfriends.

If I left my car running in the street with the keys in it every night, I would hardly be surprised if someone eventually took it.

 

[Gurck]

About as unethical as doing 65 in a 55 or swatting a fly.

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: K1052

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: K1052
No, IMO.

They are responsible for for securing their network.

I feel the same way about cars, houses, and girlfriends.

If I left my car running in the street with the keys in it every night, I would hardly be surprised if someone eventually took it.

I like it when people don't protect themselves, but carry a lot of cash.

 

[Kelemvor]

If you are just browsing the internet and things like that, then there's no problem with it. If they wanted you to not use it, they'd put some sort of security on it. If it's open, then obviosuly they don't care.

However if you use it to do illegal things or hack back into the other person's computers or anythign like that, then it's wrong and illegal.

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: FrankyJunior
If you are just browsing the internet and things like that, then there's no problem with it. If they wanted you to not use it, they'd put some sort of security on it. If it's open, then obviosuly they don't care.

However if you use it to do illegal things or hack back into the other person's computers or anythign like that, then it's wrong and illegal.

What else would you be doing with someone else's network connection? The whole point is to use it to anonymize yourself when trying to get into another network.

 

[DaFinn]

Originally posted by: CVSiN
I just use MAC filters... my network may look unsecured but it denies all but my MAC address.. works very well.

hah, and you know it works well because??? People, THIS is why we have a ton of unsecured networks around. It's like saying "I have my own fixed IP address, so no one can haxor me!"

 

[0roo0roo]

well there using it someitmes to surf the web, and theres flooding the poor guys pipes until its all bogged down.

and yea wep and mac filtering is pretty sad. but unless u have a pimple faced loser next door its pretty safe.