Is it worth putting a PhysX-dedicated card into a PCI-e 8x slot?

the chillmaster

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I've read here and other places that while my single 16x PCI2.0 slot is obviously faster than the other 8x slot right next to it in my system........... it sounds like the speed difference isn't as much as I was thinking?

originally, when I replaced my 9800gx2 with an EVGA 480 superclock+, I was intent on selling the 9800gx2 and getting a physx card to pair with my 480. then, someday in the future when I get a 2nd 480 superclock+ (and a 3rd 28" hanns-g monitor for nvidia surround 3d), I could keep on using that PhysX card alongside my SLi 480.

then I realized my 2nd pci slot is only 8x. and I freaked out, got depressed and decided not to add anything at all...

so now I'm kinda confused.

A) in terms of performance, how much slower IS the 8x slot compared to a 16x PCI slot?

B) whats the best card to grab for a PhysX-only role? I've heard talk about an 8800GTS being a good choice. then i've heard talk about a 260 card being good for it. but, and I'm only looking at this in terms of price points... it looks like I could get an EVGA GeForce GTX 460 for about the same price. and obviously, I don't know what makes any card better for PhysX than the others - but I'm assuming that a 400 series card should perform better than a 200 series or especially an 8000 series.... right??

ESPECIALLY, someday relatively soon, when I upgrade the mobo/cpu/ram and get a rig going with 3 or even 4x PCI 2.0 16x slots.

so in conclusion I have the money that I'm going to make, selling the 9800gx2, along with some other spare parts... which looks like it should be about $150 or 200. and I'm willing to spend.. it for a PhysX dedicated card, that is, as long as my current motherboard (which is a DFI LANPARTY UT P35-T2R) can make proper use of it (or at least, make enough use of it, that it's worth my $$ right now)

what do you guys think? is there a clear cut answer here? I'm guessing that 8x is.. 75% or 80% as fast as 16x from what I've read, and to me, that seems like a reasonable performance rate, to justify getting a $175 card for PhysX (I'm being an nvidia fanboy/PhysX optimist here, I'm thinking & hoping that more and more games will take advantage of it like Mafia 2).
 

sandorski

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I don't know for sure, but you can SLI/Crossfire cards fine with 8x. So I can't see any reason that a PhysX card wouldn't be fine either.
 

Keysplayr

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Many P55 boards shipped with 2x 8x PCI-e slots for SLI, and a 3rd 4x PCI-e slot for dedicated PhysX GPU's. 4x is plenty for a PhysX card if that is what you're worried about.
 

bryanW1995

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sell the 9800gx2, hold on to the money for a couple of months and see how cheap gtx 480 gets. with current release of amd 6xxx just around the corner you'll be able to put a very significant dent into a new gtx 480 most likely. run the gtx 480's in sli, the dropoff in going to 16x/8x is a lot more like 3-4 % instead of 20-25%. you'll get better gaming performance all the time plus you'll have outstanding physx as well.
 

happy medium

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Sell the 9800gx2 and buy a used gtx 260 for physx or possibly a gts450. Then later grab another gtx480 for sli and use the gtx260/gts450 for physx. You will need the power with a 3 monitor setup.

Edit: your board only supports 1 16x pci-e slot, the others are 4x or 1x. You have no 8x at all.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813136037

Is this right?

Edit 2:
From the ANandtech review......

"The expansion slot layout is comprised of three PCI Express x16 slots (one x16, one x4, and one x1 slot), one PCI Express x1 slot, and three PCI slots."

http://www.anandtech.com/show/2354/2
 
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the chillmaster

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Darn! I coulda sworn I had one 8x. back when I bought it I had absolutely no plan on ever doing SLi... here I am 2 years later and, oh well... it's not like this system setup is slow at all. thing is, when it does start to age... I'll have to replace the whole setup, mobo/ram/cpu. and that's not gonna be a cheap fix!