Is it true that NVDA "limits" ATI hardware on nForce boards?

[GTaudiophile]

I've always heard this rumor but was never sure if it was true.

 

[linkgoron]

No.

 

[fierydemise]

I've heard this rumor but it seems unethical above what either ATI or nVidia would do so I assumed it didn't take place, I'd love to see some tests to confirm or dispell this rumor.

 

[Megatomic]

Untrue. I've been using ATI hardware on nForce mobos for years now. I get awesome performance and can't complain at all.

 

[ElFenix]

can you imagine the lawsuit if they did?

 

[Pabster]

Yes, Yes they do. It's a vast conspiracy :laugh:

 

[secretanchitman]

if nvidia did that...they'd get flamed like no other. my friend uses a 9600XT on a nforce3 ultra board. works great for him!

 

[nRollo]

Originally posted by: Pabster
Yes, Yes they do. It's a vast conspiracy :laugh:

I've heard there's a sub-routine in the bios that cuts performance by 75% on ATI cards.

See, ATI is really good at making video cards for nVidia motherboards, and nVidia is really good at making motherboards for ATI cards, but they have an agreement to not show you what the parts can really do so nVidia can stay competitive at video cards, then everybody wins.

The employees of both firms get a special bios to let them enjoy the parts full potential.

 

[rbV5]

Its absolutely true.

My X800XL PCIe won't fit into my Nforce2 motherboard! bastards! I'm certain there is more shenanigans they pull as well, like no SLI support for ATI cards...the list just goes on and on.

 

[nRollo]

Originally posted by: rbV5
Its absolutely true.

My X800XL PCIe won't fit into my Nforce2 motherboard! bastards! I'm certain there is more shenanigans they pull as well, like no SLI support for ATI cards...the list just goes on and on.

LOL

What about no Crossfire AFR profiles in the nVidia drivers?!?!? War!

 

[sandorski]

Hehe, NO! I've heard a lot of people ask whether that situation exists, but have never heard anyone claim that it does.

 

[meelk]

maybe you could run skewed tests, then blame bush for the rigged results.

 

[imported_Rampage]

Good to see theres no FUD being spread here.


But everyone is correct, there is nothing holding back ATI cards.
This is the proof.

The impressive performance gains offered by NVIDIA's platform optimizations don't significantly hinder the performance of ATI's Radeon 9800 XT. In our testing, the 9800 XT was often faster on the nForce3 250Gb than on the K8T800, and in the few cases where NVIDIA's optimizations appear to slow the 9800 XT, the performance difference is never greater than 2%. Not bad, all things considered.

source

They do optimize for their own cards, but nothing that hinders ATI's cards purposely.

 

[MX2]

Anyone seen my tin foil hat?

 

[Hacp]

In fact, Nvidia made an extra effort just to support ATI cards cause they didn't want to be critisized.

 

[Insane3D]

Yeah, but it's a liberal plot GT...

It only happens with non-liberal's Nvidia boards....

It's part of the vast left wing conspiracy, and the boards are modified by CNN and other members of the liberal media.

 

[JBT]

lol not true at all. Infact almost the opposite.
Alot of people had issues with Nivida cards on Nforce boards actually. 6800GT's plus fast writes on a Nforce 3 = bad news.
This sure isn't the case for ATI cards.

I run an X800XT on a NF3 board and it works great.

 

[jiffylube1024]

Yeah, ATI hardware runs fine on Nforce motherboards.

 

[imported_Rampage]

Although I'd like to add,

dont know how many have tried using the ATI TV Wonder with an Nvidia card.
Didnt work so hot. In fact with that board, even ATI cards wouldnt play nice with it becuase the software and drivers were in such horrible states till they finally just dropped support completely.. to get rid of it I suppose :thumbsdown:

When I used one I almost sold my Geforce2 to get a Radeon hoping it'd make my TV Wonder work correctly (then I read that the radeons didnt fix some of the issues regardless).


/Salute Nvidia

 

[Elcs]

I suppose undisuptable proof will come when ATI Chipset boards hit mainstream.

If ATI suddenly gain massive amounts of speed, blame Nvidia!!

On a serious note, I cant complain about the performance of my 9800 Pro on my NForce 2 Ultra board. Doubt they'd bother holding back ATI cards on their mobos.

 

[Ronin]

Originally posted by: Elcs
I suppose undisuptable proof will come when ATI Chipset boards hit mainstream.

If ATI suddenly gain massive amounts of speed, blame Nvidia!!

On a serious note, I cant complain about the performance of my 9800 Pro on my NForce 2 Ultra board. Doubt they'd bother holding back ATI cards on their mobos.

Pssst....check MSI's S939 options.

 

[Makaveli]

I'm using a Msi k8n Neo2 Platinum(939) with a (AGP)X800XTPE. runs great no problems.

 

[Ackmed]

Originally posted by: Ronin

Originally posted by: Elcs
I suppose undisuptable proof will come when ATI Chipset boards hit mainstream.

If ATI suddenly gain massive amounts of speed, blame Nvidia!!

On a serious note, I cant complain about the performance of my 9800 Pro on my NForce 2 Ultra board. Doubt they'd bother holding back ATI cards on their mobos.

Pssst....check MSI's S939 options.

I was wondering if anyone would bring this up.

Sadly, the hidden BIOS "ATI/NV Speedup" option didnt do anything for me.

 

[Duvie]

Originally posted by: ElFenix
can you imagine the lawsuit if they did?

Ala AMD on Intel compiler!!!!

 

[Megatomic]

Originally posted by: JBT
lol not true at all. Infact almost the opposite.
Alot of people had issues with Nivida cards on Nforce boards actually. 6800GT's plus fast writes on a Nforce 3 = bad news.
This sure isn't the case for ATI cards.

I run an X800XT on a NF3 board and it works great.

Good point, I had the same exact problem. 3 6800-class cards on 2 NF3 motherboards and I couldn't run with FW on ever. Not so with the ATI cards I used on the same motherboards.