Is it possible to train a person to cook & clean?

ApartmentDweller

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This is posted under a temporary/assumed name so that if my actually visits this forum I won't be busted.

I share an apartment with two other people, one of which is the center of this topic. He is a year older than myself; he is 23, yet he lacks some fundamental household skills. I did not know that he did not cook and I expected him to perform his portion (one third) of the cooking & cleaning. He doesn't know how to cook simple foods and I really doubt that he knows how to even cook scrambled eggs. I have lived with him a month and have seen him boil hotdogs in water and make popcorn in the microwave.

When I did find out that he knows pretty much nothing, I was shocked but the figured that: "Fine, I will do most of the cooking if he does a larger part of the household cleaning." Doing most of the cooking doesn't bother me. Most of the time I find it therapeutic and I enjoy cooking the way I would want to eat it. I've cooked roasts, lemon herb grilled chicken, chicken parm, chicken fried, potatoes mashed/boiled/baked, omelets, burgers, caser salad with grilled chicken, house salad, marinated steaks, mushroom-tomato sauce with bowtie/spiral/linguini pastas. I am trying to show him how to do basic cooking and cleaning. I demonstrated how to skin, de-fat, and slice the chicken into cutlets. We sat down and did a 'hands on' session with a package of 8 split chicken breasts. Since that time I have done more cooking while he just watched.

As far as cleaning is concerned, he doesn't do that too well either. I am certainly not a perfectionist, a look around the room and a peek at my college record will tell all. But I do expect that when dishes & eating utensils are washed that are indeed washed. I do not want to see a sticky film along the backsides of spoons nor do I want to see oily residue still residing in bowls that are so called clean. After finding out that he doesn't dishes properly (after explaining "Use HOT water, Use liberal amount of soap, Use scrubber cloth") I have now bought disposable Styrofoam plates, plastic throwaway cups and fork & knives. The bathroom needs to be cleaned. I don't know if I should just give him the gloves, sponge & cleanser and have him do it, only so that I could re-do it for it to be clean. Or should I do it myself, with him watching and him to do it the next time.

Does anybody have any links/sites/advice/telephone #s/words/phrases that I could use to help "train" my apartment-mate? I am writing this just to vent and to see if anyone has been in similar situations. I really don't want him to cook for me or my other apartment-mate but I would rather him to cook for himself, instead of me cooking a big-ass meal twice a week.

Currently, the only easy to prepare foods we have in the apartment is hotdogs & sliced turkey-breast sandwiches. I guess he will be living on dogs & turkey because I am not cooking until Wednesday at the earliest. I will do another 'hands on' with pot roast, mashed potatoes, & mixed vegetables. I will be more forceful and demanding of him.

Tonight I made myself a quick & simple chicken cutlet parm. I snagged two frozen preskinned & defatted cutlets. Dumped some sauce on it & threw 'em in the oven in a baking disk at 225 degrees for about 45 minutes. Then I threw some more sauce & some cheese on it, covered the dish with foil, and left it in the oven at 400 degrees. About a half hour later I could smell it in my room upstairs so I took it out at set the table for dinner. He came down a minute later, sort-of expecting to find a portion for himself. He said "Looks good.", wandered about the kitchen for a couple of seconds, then went upstairs. For a minute I felt ashamed of my actions, but why should I? I am not in any way preventing him from eating. He does not ache for nourishment & sustenance. Perhaps this will spur him to cook on his own.

I understand that he did not pick up these skills from his mother. I understand that unlike myself, did not prepare meals & clean for his family. I have studied under the guidance of my mother, worked in two restaurants, and straight up experimented in the kitchen. By the 6th grade I could iron my own clothes, do my own laundry, & make an oven roasted chicken dinner. I hope I don't sound as though I am bragging or slamming him for not knowing, but I figured that he would have picked up some cooking skills off his mother.

My other apartment-mate feels very much the same way I do. I have no complaints against him. I've waken up to him making breakfast (eggs & French toast) and gone to sleep with him washing dishes or vacuuming the apartment.

So in the end, is it possible to train my inept apartment-mate?

(Fixed spelling & grammar)

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Zucchini

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Yes, i'm a male.. i don't see why not:p steps for cooking and cleaning aren't any more complex then steps for setting up home theaters/computers.. whatever. well... unless he's severely retarded
 

shopbruin

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omg.. you're like the perfect man. do you know how many women might come crawling to your feet after reading this? hehehe :)
 

callspread

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He probably knows that he's doing a crap job, and knows that if he keeps it up, then eventually you will do everything yourself. Of course, there is the alternative explanation that he is a retard. Whatever you do, you will have a hard time changing him, since he obviously doesn't care.

Callspread
 

radiocore

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when not just prep the food for yourself and let him get whatever he wants....disposals for yourself too so he has to clean all his dishes himself and eat off the same ones too...and as for the bathroom, i really don't know what you can do there. tough luck :(
 

cxim

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I presume that your apartment has a door ?

I suggest that you show 'him', the door & explain how he is going out it unless he 'conforms' to normal accepted standards.

Having been thru this before, on more than 1 occasion.

If you put this off, it will just get worse.

'he' either ships up or leaves....

set a firm time table & stick to it.

PS:

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Yo Ma Ma

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Why not just make up a chore chart type of thing, then once done it doesn't seem so personal like "I want you to scrub the toilet" it will just be on the chart. If he doesn't do a good enough job at cleaning then it needs to be pointed out, and corrected by him. If he is inept he should improve, if he's just slacking then you and the other roomie should gang up and force the issue, or like someone mentioned above, show him the door.
 

Isla

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Answer: Not if he is my husband.

Seriously, there are some people who just do not care about these sorts of things.

They look for people like you and me to share living space with.

You are doomed.
 

Stark

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I thought my wife was posting when I first saw the title.

I guess compared to my days as a slob bachelor, she's trained me pretty well. Yesterday all I did was yardwork, kitchenwork, and laundry... yep, I'm more trained than Pavlov's dog.
 

Yeeny

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Hey ApartmentDweller, need a new roommate? I don't mind doing a third of it, I do it all now as it is. ;)

Actually though, cooking is a talent that some people don't have. But as far as cleaning, anybody can handle that. If he does not start helping out, boot him.
 

ApartmentDweller

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Russ:
I hope its not genetically wired.

Zucchini:
Sorry, he isn't retarded. He is actually pursuing his MS degree.

freesia39:
Wow, "the perfect man". I wish. Sorry, I too can be a lazy sack of bones.

callspread:
Unless he is playing some serious mind games, I doubt that he is doing, or in this case, not doing it on purpose. Wouldn't it be interesting if he were playing ignorant??

radiocore:
Good idea. This morning I made ziti, string beans, & chicken parm and packaged it all into Tupperware dinner containers and then put those in my refrigerator. He ate a turkey sandwich and while he was busy in his room I had my own dinner. The pre-cooked chicken, sauce, pasta, & string beans are still available if he was to cook, but alas he doesn't.

cxim:
Can't exactly show him the door. He got this apartment with his seniority. As a grad student he had a better number in the residence lottery. He had no idea that living with him would be like this. I will have to converse with my other apartment-mate about a timetable. <nudge, nudge> <wink, wink> I will keep your services in mind. ;)

Yo_Ma-Ma:
Great idea. Again I will have to run this by my other apartment-mate.

Isla


<< You are doomed. >>


Please say it ain't so. This is just one month of about 8 that I must live here. I gotta do something about it now because when the winter comes I get short fused &amp; crabby.

Adul:
I can't run away. I am a junior in college.

GirlFriday:
Yeah I figured that maybe he just can't cook. But I also figured that he should be able to clean somewhat well.




To be continued ...
 

apoppin

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ApartmentDweller, aren't you getting the slightest suspicion that you are being taken advantage of?

To answer your question: Absolutely NOT!.

It is WAY too late. If he didn't learn &quot;good habits&quot; from his family (he didn't want to) and you certainly aren't the one to retrain him. Give up now.

I have been in your situation too many times to count. I have never seen anyone motivated to change as long as things were being done for them.

I am sorry to say, you're stuck until you find a better roommate. Next time, check up on your prospective roommate to see how they live in their natural habital - what their room is like. Then don't spoil them - do you share but no more.

Good luck. You will adapt. Live long and prosper.