Is it possible to make my own thermal adhesive?

HardWired

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I'm wanting to glue a small heatsink on to the heatspreader of a Radeon 9700 Pro and ramsinks on to the ram.

I'm thinking Arctic Silver II, (which I have on hand) and super glue. Would that work?

The cheapest I can find thermal adhesive (Arctic Silver) shipped is around $12-$15, and that's just too much for me to justify for just a one time use. I may never use it again.

So I'm wondering... has anyone out there made their own thermal adhesive?

If so, with what??
 

EeyoreX

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Also saw your other thread. My suggestion might be to buy the adhesive, use it, and sell the rest on the FS/FT forum...?

\Dan
 

Vonkhan

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what he said ^^^

... or post a thread in the FS/T forum to buy some
 

pelikan

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Arctic Alumina is nice as its not conductive. So if you get it on the chip legs of the memory (they are very close to the top of the chips) you won't fry your card. SVC.com only charges $1. shipping.
 

Amorphus

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especially if he's white. if he's a minority, then its not so bad. ^_^


yes, you can do that, but don't mix the two together. just apply AS2, and a dab of super glue to each of the four corners of the IC. it'll hold, and there will be no dilution and bad side effects.
 

dakels

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Originally posted by: pelikan
Originally posted by: niwi7
no offense but y r u so juish? go the 6 bucks and buy a friggin tune www.svc.com LOL woW

I think editing your racist post would be nice.
Yea seriously. You start with "no offense" then proceed to make a racial slur...
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And to top it all off, ur gr4mm4r is teh suck!


Hey OrooOroo,

Great article link! That guy is not only well educated, but puts it into an easy to read manner, and funny as hell to boot. Now to find me some Vegemite or toothpaste for my new 2.8C and Zalman 7000AICu. :D
 

0roo0roo

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Originally posted by: dakels
Originally posted by: pelikan
Originally posted by: niwi7
no offense but y r u so juish? go the 6 bucks and buy a friggin tune www.svc.com LOL woW

I think editing your racist post would be nice.
Yea seriously. You start with "no offense" then proceed to make a racial slur...
rolleye.gif

And to top it all off, ur gr4mm4r is teh suck!


Hey OrooOroo,

Great article link! That guy is not only well educated, but puts it into an easy to read manner, and funny as hell to boot. Now to find me some Vegemite or toothpaste for my new 2.8C and Zalman 7000AICu. :D

yuppers:) he's pretty kewl, thats an old article, he's got plenty more:)

and yea, toothpaste rocks! well for about a day atleast:p



who is dan? lol:)
 

HardWired

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Originally posted by: Amorphus
especially if he's white. if he's a minority, then its not so bad. ^_^


yes, you can do that, but don't mix the two together. just apply AS2, and a dab of super glue to each of the four corners of the IC. it'll hold, and there will be no dilution and bad side effects.
That's the answer I was looking for! That makes sense not to mix it but to just use a small dot on the corners. I'm going to go for it.

Thanks Amorphus!
 

WarCon

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Don't get the ASII on the pins of the ram on your video card or you will have errors and or a non-functioning card. ASII is not conductive, but is slightly capacitive, which means it will pass high frequency signals. Use a non-capacitive compound like Ceramique or Arctic Alumina or if all you have available is ASII, then paint the pins on the memory with something like silicone before you put the ramsinks on.
 

HardWired

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With BGA ram like what is on the 9700/9800 Pro (see close-up here), there are no pins/legs around the ram chips.

Plus, I'm never one to blob on thermal conpound. I smear it on ever so lightly, almost transparent, so I won't have a problem with it oozing out the sides or anything.

But thanks for the tip! :)
 

niwi7

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guyz stop ur herbin....who in the world makes thier own thermal adhesive....its not like it costs alot! even if u buy like 1 dollar adhesive its better than taking ur precious time and MAKING it...i mean think about wut ur saying
 

Rotax

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i just checked, svc.com will get ya some arctic alumina for like $7.44 or something shipped, one of the shipping methods (1st Class) is only .99$ so thats prob cheapest / easiest route there.. or another route is get the zalman chipset heat sink, which comes w/ some thermal adhesive (prob more than enough i'd figure) for $6.27 shipped. :p hehe so yeah you get a heatsink outta the deal too that way. actually what i'm thinking about doing...

Zalman NB HS
 

HardWired

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Wow! Great find! And very reasonable shipping. While the super glue on the edges with AS thermal compound is a good idea, for $7.44 shipped I guess I can't pass it up. That's half of what I was finding elsewhere.

You should post that in the Hot Deals thread.

Thanks Rotax!
 

HardWired

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Originally posted by: Rotax
or another route is get the zalman chipset heat sink, which comes w/ some thermal adhesive (prob more than enough i'd figure) for $6.27 shipped. :p hehe so yeah you get a heatsink outta the deal too that way. actually what i'm thinking about doing...

Zalman NB HS

Wow...I didn't even take the time to read the last half of your post. I wonder how much (when they refer to A and B) comes with it. With my luck, probably not enough to do eight ramsinks and the Zalman on the 9700 Pro heatspreader. 'Cause damn, that heatspreader needs some help. It gets way hot!!

 

HardWired

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I was going spend $1.99 for a small black aluminum hs from Radio Shack for the heatspreader, but I've decided for that low price (shipped even) I'm going to order the Zalman from svc.com, to at least help with the cooling of the heatspreader. Then I'll be able to see whether they include enough a/b adhesive to do the ramsinks as well or whether I'll have to buy some more. I'll post a follow up on this after I receive it next week for anyone that's interested...
 

amcdonald

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If the amount that you get isn't enough, pm and I'll mail you the extra ones I have from buying that HS.
 

dakels

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How effective is super glue (cyanoacrylate) in high temperatures? The contact area where thermal grease is used on a processor can get really hot. I wonder how good of an idea it woud be to use super glue instead of a high temperature epoxy or special thermal bonding agent specific for this purpose. Even if super glue can withstand the extreme prolonged heat, you don't know if it will start to lose it's adhesive qualities in a short time.

Anyways, the R9700 has mounting points, why do you want to glue something on? If you are thinking of putting in passive cooling over the stock HS+Fan then you should be aware that it will run much hotter. Even something huge like a Zalman 80-HP vga cooler runs considerably hotter then the stock cooling on a R9700. As for the RAM heat spreaders, the difference is negligable from what I am told.

Also even the best VGA reviews I have seen only state a 2-4ºC difference in GPU coolers and like Oroo's buddy Dan states, If a few degrees is going to make or break your computer, then maybe it's time to ease off the gas. I have never seen a report that VGA ram sinks do anything necessary at all. Even system ram sinks are quite unecessary as the 1-2º difference shouldn't make or break your OCing project. Better cadse cooling is the solution for keeping RAM cool. If you want to add the ram sinks then I recommend you fork over the few bucks for some artic silver thermal adhesive or something similar.

what is this project for anyways? OCing? If you're thinking of passive cooling for OCing then I suggest you reconsider. If you just want to make your system quiter then thats a different story.
 

HardWired

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Thanks for your input dakels, but if you read my original post that started this thread, you'll see what I need it for. I went the the Zalman NB HS from svc.com for 6.47 shipped with thermal adhesive.

Once Amorphus posted about the superglue method on the corners, it reminded me that I had read that somewhere before, and the writer had no problems using it in that manner. But for $6.47 shipped with the HS and the thermal adhesive, I couldn't pass it up. That's a hot deal for sure iyam...

edit: I ordered it last night and it shipped today. From CA to CO, it should probably be here Mon. or Tue..
 

Cerb

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Originally posted by: Rotax
i just checked, svc.com will get ya some arctic alumina for like $7.44 or something shipped, one of the shipping methods (1st Class) is only .99$ so thats prob cheapest / easiest route there.. or another route is get the zalman chipset heat sink, which comes w/ some thermal adhesive (prob more than enough i'd figure) for $6.27 shipped. :p hehe so yeah you get a heatsink outta the deal too that way. actually what i'm thinking about doing...

Zalman NB HS

While I didn't get the HS for the adhesive, I will finally be using it soon. Getting this will not disappoint you--it's a nice HS, comes with adhesive in syringes and a little bit of basic goop. Given how thin you'll want the adhesive on there, it should manage a dozen or so RAM chips if you're messy, and a couple dozen (or more?) if you are careful.
OTOH, some Arctic Alumina or Ceramique adhesive would be great, too.
 

HardWired

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Wow...cool. Thanks for the info. That's good to know. Sounds like I won't have to take amcdonald up on his very kind offer after all :)