Is it possible to get dual citizenship in the United States?

etalns

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I'm currently a Canadian citizen, is it possible for me to get a American citizenship too while retaining my Canadian citizenship?
 
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Originally posted by: Qosis
I'm currently a Canadian citizen, is it possible for me to get a American citizenship too while retaining my Canadian citizenship?

Don't think so. Unles you have a special circumstance, you can't. I couldn't. :(
 

ElFenix

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my old roommate was dual, but then he was born in australia to US parents...
 

Gooberlx2

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My friend was born in Sicily. I think he has dual citizenship. Well, I know for sure he has Italian citizenship 'cause they keep bothering him about required military service or something.
 

0roo0roo

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does it depend on the other countries policy? is it possible to have a conflict? like where the us doens't consider u dual but the other country doesn't give a sh*t?
 

crobusa

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I was wondering the same thing awhile back, I think only special situations.. but when you think about the legal problems, it's scary.
As a US citizen, where ever you go in the world, the U.S-centric laws like DMCA and drug laws have jurisdiction, even in countries where such behaviors are permissable. Other countries may ban their citizens from owning firearms. You'd have to file tax returns and report income in both countries.

Stay a citizen where you feel loyalty to.. and you feel you can abide by the laws.
 

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Rules against dual citizenship still apply to some extent to people who wish to become US citizens via naturalization. The Supreme Court chose to leave in place the requirement that new citizens must renounce their old citizenship during US naturalization. However, in practice, the State Department is no longer doing anything in the vast majority of situations where a new citizen's "old country" refuses to recognize the US renunciation
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sandorski

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An American that moves to Canada can get dual citizenship, but I have no idea if the reverse is true. Often you'll be told you can't have dual, though you can, "they" just don't want you to have it.
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: crobusa
I was wondering the same thing awhile back, I think only special situations.. but when you think about the legal problems, it's scary.
As a US citizen, where ever you go in the world, the U.S-centric laws like DMCA and drug laws have jurisdiction, even in countries where such behaviors are permissable. Other countries may ban their citizens from owning firearms. You'd have to file tax returns and report income in both countries.

Stay a citizen where you feel loyalty to.. and you feel you can abide by the laws.

Georgia is working on a Law where you can be a Mexican citizen and an Illegal American "citizen" at the same time but they don't have to pay taxes. They will be issuing Driver's Licenses to them. I kid you not. They are doing it for the License fee money and Insurance money.

Edit: Looks like the Bill was pulled last night.

http://www.americanpatrol.org/GEORGIA/ZAMARRIPA/MenuZamarripaWatch.html


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Zamarripa
Watch Access North Georgia -- April 18, 2003
Invader license bill fails: Zamarripa snivels, blames Republicans
Atlanta - The state Senate reversed a bill Thursday that would allow driver's license privileges in Georgia for undocumented workers [criminals]. -- The bill had been a top priority of the state's rapidly growing Hispanic community and Georgia's first Hispanic senator. -- "Unless we treat the Hispanic community well, we cannot grow as a state,'' says Sen. Sam Zamarripa.



Jimmy Herchek -- Lawrenceville, Georgia -- April 17, 2003
No Georgia driver's licenses for invaders.... at least for now
Instead of facing the disgrace of overwhelming defeat, Sam Zamarripa withdrew his amendment during floor debate tonight on House Bill 191. The proposal to grant driver's licenses to illegals is dead, at least for a while, in Georgia. -- Special thanks to American Patrol and all the great Americans who follow immigration matters at your site who made telephone calls and wrote messages to our Georgia Senators. They received an overwhelming response which could not be ignored. Thank You!!!



Gainesville (Georgia) Times Editorial -- April 17, 2003 -- BILL TO BE RECONSIDERED TODAY
Georgia shouldn't give legal driver's licenses to illegals
Not so fast, Sen. Zamarripa. -- You and the 36 other senators who voted with you Monday need to understand who is eligible to receive privileges granted to U.S. citizens and legal residents. -- Sen. Sam Zamarripa, D-Atlanta, resurrected a defeated bill that would allow illegal immigrants to become legal drivers and furtively inserted it into another one. The Senate approved the gussied-up bill 37-18, but it's not a victory yet.



Atlanta Journal-Constitution -- April 16, 2003
Senators seek review of Georgia bill on illegals' licenses
The Senate could reverse itself Thursday and deny driver's license privileges...for illegal immigrants. -- Republican state senators are planning to ask for reconsideration of a bill that passed Monday. That measure had been amended to include language that would grant driver's licenses to immigrants from the "free trade area of the Americas," the 33 Western Hemisphere nations negotiating a trade agreement. (Reconquista Sam) Zamarripa said the Republicans are preparing to act "against the Hispanic community in Georgia." (Just the criminals, Sam)



Access North Georgia -- April 15, 2003
Homeland Insecurity: Georgia senate approves licenses for foreign invaders
A measure that would allow undocumented workers [criminals] to obtain a state-issued driver's license passed the Georgia Senate on Monday. -- The legislation's sponsor and Georgia's first Hispanic senator, Sen. Sam Zamarripa, D-Atlanta, said there is an enormous population of immigrants [he means illegal aliens] living, working and driving in the state. The bill would ensure they are legally licensed, understand the rules of the road and carry auto insurance [a lie].




Action
Alert! April 15, 2003
Lobbying Against Illegal Alien Licenses in Georgia Needed
The Georgia Senate passed a bill with amendments by Democrat Sen. Sam Zamarripa which effectively resurrects House Bill 578 -- a proposal to grant driver's licenses to illegal immigrants from Latin America. (Unconstitutional, but why enforce the Constitution?) A vote to reconsider will be held Thursday, April 17th.....




Zamarripa
Watch Atlanta Latino [Click on 'English' link in upper right corner] -- April 10, 2003
Georgia house votes against driver's licenses for invaders
...While touring the state last week, Gov. Perdue told Atlanta Latino what he thought of [Rep. Pedro] Marín and Zamarripa's bill. -- "First of all I don't agree with the legislation being connected to the FTAA," he said. "I respect our Latin American neighbors and support bringing the FTAA to Atlanta." If residents are here legally, he said, they should be able to drive, but not if they are undocumented." [Call and ask the Governor not to sign any legislation which contains a provision to give licenses to illegals - 404-656-1776]



Atlanta Journal-Constitution -- April 8, 2003
More on defeat of Georgia illegal alien license bill
...Rep. Pedro Marin and Sen. Sam Zamarripa each have proposed bills that would grant restricted driving licenses to all people -- regardless of citizenship status -- from countries that are part of the Free Trade Area of the Americas. Atlanta is competing to land the headquarters of the Free Trade Area of the Americas [most likely unconstitutional]. -- Marin said he would ask the House today to reconsider its vote.




News
Note Atlanta Journal-Constitution -- April 7, 2003
Scofflaw driver's license bill comes up today
A proposal that would give many illegal immigrants in Georgia some driving privileges is scheduled to be debated in the Legislature today. --- Rep. Pedro Marin and Sen. Sam Zamarripa have each proposed bills that would grant restricted driver's licenses to all people -- regardless of citizenship status -- from countries participating in [an intrernational] trade pact... [This is not only absurd, but most likely unconstitutional]



Atlanta Latino [Click on 'English' link in upper right corner of page] -- POLL ON PAGE -- April 3, 2003
Invaders demand Georgia driver's licenses
...It is immigrants like Eduardo Vásquez [he's not an 'immigrant'] who would benefit from a bill proposed by state Sen. Sam Zamarripa, jointly filed in the House by his colleague, Rep. Pedro Marín. The bill, titled the Economic Development and Public Safety Act, looks at the economic impact of undocumented immigrants [criminals], who provide the labor for much of the state's construction industry [illegals are prohibited by law from working in the U.S.]..... [The September 11 killers also had licenses] [Remember this poll?]




Zamarripa
Watch Atlanta Latino [Click on 'English' link in upper right corner of page] -- March 28, 2003
Georgia illegal alien driver's licenses and arrogant Zamarripa
(Scroll down) -- Tuesday, Rep. Pedro Marin's driver's license bill, House Bill 278, overcame its first hurdle and moved closer to a possible vote. --- Sen. Sam Zamarripa commented on the proposals. -- "We won't accept the restricted driver's license," he said. "But we can accept it as a foundation."



Atlanta Latino Editorial [Click on 'English' link in upper right corner of page] -- March 27, 2003
'Law abiding' foreign invaders demand privileges, 'dignity'
...Georgians love hiring Latinos -- documented or not. It's no secret that many employers seek them out, regardless of their immigration status [it is illegal to hire invaders]. -- But as much as Georgians praise Latino workers, many bristle at the idea of giving them a license to drive to work [illegals are prohibited from working in the U.S.] . A driver's license, many say, is the "key to the kingdom." It is used in this country to prove identity in many common activities: boarding planes, opening a bank account, even voting....



Atlanta Journal-Constitution - March 23, 2003
Latinos say state rep. isn't pro-invader enough -- Zamarripa whines
...The Hispanic media, in editorials and articles, has blasted [freshman state representative David] Casas for not being pro-Latino enough. The Lilburn Republican has drawn the ire of some who say he's on the wrong side of the issues. Especially where it concerns undocumented workers [criminals]. -- Casas doesn't support granting Georgia driver's licenses to undocumented workers. He also doesn't want the children of those immigrants to receive HOPE college scholarships. -- Sen. Zamarripa has been highly critical of what they call Casas's lack of a "Latino agenda." --- "Do we have to throw David Casas' mom in jail before he'll stand up?"




Zamarripa
Watch AtlantaLatino.com - AP Posted March 12, 2003
Scofflaw driver's license advocates unite
Atlanta -- Sen. Sam Zamarripa's driver's license bill was read on the Senate floor, and Rep. Pedro Marín's identical bill was read on the House floor. Known as The Economic Development and Public Safety Act, the bill is not just about driver's licenses. -- The bill ties the issue to the state's economic interest in trying to win the Secretariat of the Free Trade Area of the Americas.




Zamarripa
Watch AtlantaLatino.com -- AP Posted February 23, 2003
Driver's License Confusion
The House and Senate have each added another driver's license bill, bringing the total number of bills on the issue to seven. -- "There is a lot of confusion," said Sen. Sam Zamarripa. "And I'm going to add to that confusion, but mine is going to be the lightning-rod bill." -- He said Rep. Pedro Marín will file a duplicate bill in the House this week that grants licenses to documented and undocumented residents.




Letter to
the Editor Gwinnett Daily Post (Published) -- February 19, 2003
Sam Zamarripa as hero a bad choice for GDP
...If you do your homework, you will find that not even three years ago in 2000, [Sam] Zamarippa declared to retiring executive director of the Atlanta Urban League, "Your song may be, 'We shall overcome,'... "Our song is, 'We shall overwhelm.'" Overwhelm is exactly what Mexico is doing to the United States in a calculated, concentrated manner while Americans work and live asleep at the wheel.




News
Note Gwinnett Daily Post (Georgia) -- February 11, 2003
Politician, lawmaker spar over Mexican Center's ties
A politician is calling for the resignation of state Rep. Pedro Marin, one of the state's first Hispanic lawmakers, because Marin works for a nonprofit. -- Jimmy Herchek issued a press release Monday calling state Rep. Pedro Marin, an agent of the Mexican government. -- Herchek's accusation stemmed from Marin's sponsorship of a bill which, if passed, would grant driver's licenses to illegal immigrants who have obtained a Matricula Consular. -- Marin said he is working with Sen. Sam Zamarripa, a fellow Latino lawmaker, on another version of that bill...






Atlanta Journal-Constitution -- February 3, 2003
Legal immigrant drivers stalled without SS card
While public debate simmers over driver's licenses for illegal immigrants, some legal immigrants in Georgia are quietly losing driving privileges. -- State lawmakers passed a law last year requiring as of Jan. 1 a Social Security number for anyone to apply for a Georgia driver's license. --- Sen. Sam Zamarripa (D-Atlanta) said Friday he will introduce a bill that would recognize driver's licenses from other nations as a valid form of identification when applying for a Georgia license. [How does this assure that the driver knows U.S. driving How long would it take for the corrupt Mexican Government to start selling licenses to illegals at their numerous consulates?]




We Get
E-Mail February 2, 2003
Re: Georgia gets it's own invader-cheerleading legislator
Sam Zamarripa is already throwing around the "R" word! Amazingly, he defeated a Black woman to represent a Senate district that is 63 percent Black. Apparently, anyone who resists his agenda is going to be called racist (presumably, even if they are black!)




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RossMAN

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Originally posted by: ElFenix
my old roommate was dual, but then he was born in australia to US parents...

I'm glad that the US and Australia offers dual citizenship, MrsHoneybee is eligible for US citizenship Nov 2004 after being here for 3 years :)
 

Mookow

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I was born in the USA, so I am a US citizen. However, when I was 12 or sometime around then, my parents applied for me to become a citizen of Ireland. I was eligible due to the fact that my grandfather was born there and then immigrated, and after that the next two generations are eligible for citizenship. Now that I'm a citizen, my kids will be, too. I'm actually considering getting a passport from Ireland, the next time I visit Ireland there are a few side benefits. The US government doesn't recognize me being a citizen of Ireland, but IIRC Ireland allows dual citizenship, so...
 

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As long as Canada (or the other country) allow dual citizenship, the answer is yes. You're required to take an oath of allegiance to the United States during the citizenship ceremony. But there's a caviat. As long as the other country doesn't recognize that oath and doesn't revoke your prior citizenship, you're technically holding dual citizenship.
 

LAUST

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Originally posted by: ElFenix
my old roommate was dual, but then he was born in australia to US parents...
Yep that's how it works, much of my family is dual because my grandparents were right out of Ireland

 

Zim Hosein

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Originally posted by: Qosis
I'm currently a Canadian citizen, is it possible for me to get a American citizenship too while retaining my Canadian citizenship?

I'd have to say yes Qosis as my Mom holds dual citizenship :)