Is it OK to eat dog meat? *w/ pics.

[JulesMaximus]

It is never 'okay'? On what basis?

On the basis that I say so.

 

[biostud]

I wouldn't mind eating any animal if it tasted good. I try to buy organic when available, since I believe that the animal should at least have a decent life before being killed for my dinner. Not always possible, so I also eat regularly meat.

 

[mmntech]

You can find horse meat in grocery stores in Canada. It's mainly just in Quebec though, since horse meat is not uncommon in French food. However, outside Quebec you can find it occasionally at some higher end butcher shops in the big cities like Toronto.

BTW, in Canada it's perfectly legal to butcher dogs for food. Except I've never seen it for sale, I assume because there are no abbatoirs that deal with dogs, and no suppliers that humanely raise dogs for food either.

Five will get you ten there's some shady market on Toronto's Spadina Avenue that keeps it in the back for "special requests".

Dog meat eating strikes me as a lower class thing within China. I personally wouldn't eat it. Then again I do enjoy a good veal on a bun, and a lot of people consider eating veal immoral.

 

[Imp]

Five will get you ten there's some shady market on Toronto's Spadina Avenue that keeps it in the back for "special requests".

Dog meat eating strikes me as a lower class thing within China. I personally wouldn't eat it. Then again I do enjoy a good veal on a bun, and a lot of people consider eating veal immoral.

Is it some place near Dundas St. on Spadina...?

 

[sa7an1]

Dog is no different than any other animal that we farm for meat. As long as it's done humanely, there's no reason not to eat it.

ehh Dog's are the only animal we domesticated (symbiotic, wolfs started hanging around and helping out for the free food we would give them) to help also in a predatory way, we used them to hunt and also to contain livestock. we also used them to help warn and protect our early relatives. so kinda quite different than any other domesticated animal.

 

[BD231]

Gett'em !!!

 

[Pulsar]

ehh Dog's are the only animal we domesticated (symbiotic, wolfs started hanging around and helping out for the free food we would give them) to help also in a predatory way, we used them to hunt and also to contain livestock. we also used them to help warn and protect our early relatives. so kinda quite different than any other domesticated animal.

You don't think the modern day cow is domesticated?

 

[alkemyst]

The dogs that were / are traditionally used are not much like dogs as pets. However; today it's a pathetic disgrace what people will do to turn a buck.

 

[dustb0wlkid]

I know what horrible conditions farm animals are raised in. I eat them anyway.

There is so much stupid in this thread that it's unbelievable. It is 2014; you can (and should) eat humanely raised meat. You and fuzzybabysadist can continue to eat whatever you want though. It'd sure be a shame if you both choked on a stray bone. I hear dog butchers and factory farmers sometimes miss one or two.

 

[irishScott]

That's what we do to lobsters. Shit like this always makes me consider being a vegetarian. Very briefly, but it makes me consider it....

I'm sure every farm/butcher does inhumane shit all the in the states to every kind of animal. How do you think Hindus feel about our beef consumption?

No it's not. We're talking completely different classes of lifeforms here.

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/PainManagement/story?id=722163

According to Yaksh, primitive animals like lobsters have the ability to perceive and respond to a "noxious stimulus," that is, any agent that can cause physical harm like tissue damage.

"When you deal with a non-verbal animal, and when you see a lobster in boiling water, you know that's a noxious stimulus," said Yaksh.

But scientists like Yaksh stop short of calling what the lobster feels "pain" -- or pain as humans know it. The difference, Yaksh explained, is in our feelings. "There's a strong emotional component to what we call pain," he said.

It is this emotional component that helps us remember what causes pain, said Yaksh. "It's one of those things that drives you to avoid those [painful] things in the future," he said.

Working on a Chain Ganglia

But animals with simple nervous systems, like lobsters, snails and worms, do not have the ability to process emotional information and therefore do not experience suffering, say most researchers.
"There are two types of animals, invertebrates and vertebrates," said Craig W. Stevens, professor of pharmacology at the Center for Health Sciences at Oklahoma State University in Tulsa.

Animals without spines, or invertebrates, "have chain ganglia -- groups of neurons connected by nerve fibers," said Stevens.

When stimulated, these chain ganglia cause muscles to contract. "It's a very quick neuron response," Stevens said.

According to Stevens, the chain ganglia network is so simple it doesn't even require a brain. "If you remove the head region of a lobster, the body of the lobster would still react the same way, because of the local reflexes ... involving those chain ganglia," he said.

"When you drop a lobster in boiling water, or put a fishhook through a worm, those stimuli cause those muscles to contract," Stevens said. "We describe that as pain because of the motor response, which is nothing more than neurons that have been stimulated."

But vertebrates with spines have much more advanced nervous systems and can feel real pain and suffering, Stevens explained.

"In humans, there are ... neurons talking through all parts of the brain. That's a big difference," Stevens said.

 

[irishScott]

Not all farm animals are in "horrible" conditions, most cattle graze freely until the last few months of their lives when they are transferred to a "feedlot" to be fed pure grains for fattening them up, chickens do however live in tiny cages their entire lives, in any event FBB goes on about the unique bond between man and dog and how cruelly these dogs are treated and slaughtered but readily admits ti eating them, many times, I don't get it but it is what it is I guess.

Some do. Buy cage-free eggs. Granted it means the chickens are just kept in a warehouse with maybe enough room to stretch their wings, but it's still better than cages.

 

[ImpulsE69]

While I personally can't imagine eating any of our "domesticated" pet animals, I fail to see how what they are doing there is much different than pretty much our entire meat industry.

 

[sa7an1]

You don't think the modern day cow is domesticated?

You didn't read past the brackets huh....

 

[Eug]

Five will get you ten there's some shady market on Toronto's Spadina Avenue that keeps it in the back for "special requests".

Perhaps, but I don't know. Illegality notwithstanding, personally I would think that would be a bad idea from a health perspective. (Not that some restaurants would care.)

I wouldn't have any problem with it if it was sourced from a respectable butcher though. But, AFAIK, none of those exist, presumably because of the arbitrary stigma associated with it.

It's odd though, as I've met asshole pet dogs and extremely loving pet pigs, yet people have no problem eating bacon.

There is a stigma with horse meat in most of Canada and the US too, yet in many parts of Europe and in one province in Canada, it's normal. Like I said, you can find it on the shelves of regular grocery stores.

Dog meat eating strikes me as a lower class thing within China.

It isn't.

Similarly eating horse meat isn't a lower class thing in France.

I personally wouldn't eat it. Then again I do enjoy a good veal on a bun, and a lot of people consider eating veal immoral.

I would consider that hypocritical. In fact, there is justification for the criticism for eating veal, because even approved veal farming still uses crates. Essentially, on some farms, calves are crated from birth, until they are slaughtered.

I'd take meat from humanely raised dogs over crated veal any day.

Does anyone here eat fois gras?

BTW, I like rabbit stew.

 

[WelshBloke]

Some do. Buy cage-free eggs. Granted it means the chickens are just kept in a warehouse with maybe enough room to stretch their wings, but it's still better than cages.

Chickens I buy aren't kept in a warehouse, they pretty much just wander around loose.