Is it OK to eat dog meat? *w/ pics.

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fuzzybabybunny

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This is very much done inhumanly though.




Carnivores are much harder to farm.
Yeah, it doesn't really make sense to farm higher level carnivores from a economic perspective, unless you could find a cheaper source of the necessary nutrients such as insect protein or something.
 

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I didn't see any eating tables for customers listed in the China butcher shop post above. So I'm assuming the Chinese have some sensitivity in that regard. The serving places with the dog menus are kept away from the butcher shops? Is there like a buffer zone of space between them? And do the butcher shops have a free sample tray?
In general the eating tables for ANY meal were away from the butcher areas. If it's a multistory wet market the butchers would be on the ground floor while the restaurants are on the top. In a single floor space the butchers are always in a separate area of the building. This goes for chicken, duck, and any animals.
 

BUTCH1

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I know what horrible conditions farm animals are raised in. I eat them anyway.

Not all farm animals are in "horrible" conditions, most cattle graze freely until the last few months of their lives when they are transferred to a "feedlot" to be fed pure grains for fattening them up, chickens do however live in tiny cages their entire lives, in any event FBB goes on about the unique bond between man and dog and how cruelly these dogs are treated and slaughtered but readily admits ti eating them, many times, I don't get it but it is what it is I guess.
 

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Not all farm animals are in "horrible" conditions, most cattle graze freely until the last few months of their lives when they are transferred to a "feedlot" to be fed pure grains for fattening them up, chickens do however live in tiny cages their entire lives, in any event FBB goes on about the unique bond between man and dog and how cruelly these dogs are treated and slaughtered but readily admits ti eating them, many times, I don't get it but it is what it is I guess.

That sounds pretty horrible.
 

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Eh, meat is meat. Dogs aren't much different than any other animal we farm to eat. People just form a bond with dogs on emotional levels and that leads to the believe it is wrong. We like to think dogs have this emotional connection to us, when that isn't entirely true. They still have a pack mentality, not some "oh, you're my owner and I love you" bullshit people want to believe.
 

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Do we eat bear? We really don't eat very many mammalian carnivores that I can think of.

Yes, yes we do. I know a large amount of hunters that eat bear regularly. I personally find it very greasy and overpowering, but ive tried it.
 

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Dog is no different than any other animal that we farm for meat. As long as it's done humanely, there's no reason not to eat it.
Agreed.

Also, intelligence isn't a good argument here if the person arguing against eating dogs eats pork, since pigs are as smart, if not smarter.

Do we eat bear? We really don't eat very many mammalian carnivores that I can think of.
I've eaten bear before. People hunt bear in North America.

I have no desire to eat bear though. I'd rather have a good pork chop.

BTW, I've sampled dog meat before, but I have no idea if well-prepared fresh dog meat is good or not, because the little bit I tried was from a can, so it was terrible.
 

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That sounds pretty horrible.

For the chickens, yea, they can't even turn around in their cages because they are so cramped. For steer, it's not bad at all, they graze on grass for a few years then get transferred to the "feedlot" a few months before slaughter where they eat whole grains and gain a lot of weight, they are not in cages, the animal is killed with a gun that shoots a large pellet into the brain killing it instantly, then processing begins.
 

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In the back of my mind, I know how shitty the meat industry is, but I still eat it. We also know that the factories that make a lot of the shit we buy are in pretty bad form and still buy their stuff. Tons of other examples.
 

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the animal is killed with a gun that shoots a large pellet into the brain killing it instantly, then processing begins.

The pneumatic guns don't actually kill the cows. It renders them brain damaged, but still technically alive. This helps a great deal, as the heart will still pump the blood out.
 

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Agreed.

Also, intelligence isn't a good argument here if the person arguing against eating dogs eats pork, since pigs are as smart, if not smarter.


I've eaten bear before. People hunt bear in North America.

I have no desire to eat bear though. I'd rather have a good pork chop.

BTW, I've sampled dog meat before, but I have no idea if well-prepared fresh dog meat is good or not, because the little bit I tried was from a can, so it was terrible.

I think that the main reason for those protesting is that they are in fact not humanly slaughtered and raised in tiny cages like chickens. Even if it were humanly done I couldn't even think about eating dogmeat, here is an animal that we have domesticated over tens of thousands of years to the point where a dog would gladly sacrifice it's life defending it's owner, they just deserve to be treated with some sort of respect and nobility for that reason alone IMO..
 

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here is an animal that we have domesticated over tens of thousands of years to the point where a dog would gladly sacrifice it's life defending it's owner, they just deserve to be treated with some sort of respect and nobility for that reason alone IMO..

And here is your main flaw. Dogs weren't trained to have some loyal to their human master, they are wired like that as pack animals. They act the same with an all dog pack as they do with a human pack. You are conflating natural pack instinct with companionship. The fact that dogs are loyal to a pack is why they were used as workers for hunting, herding, etc. They understand the dynamics of pack roles (leader and followers). It has zero to do with caring about the human and more to do with caring about whatever pack it is a part of.
 

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Knowing all that you went ahead and ate it anyway?, I find that and you disgusting..

Just curious - what particularly in the post bothered you so much? Being stacked in cages in a relatively unhygenic way is hardly the worst way animals for slaughter are treated. The poster didn't state he saw the dogs being killed in an inhumane manner.

I do believe animals deserve to be killed humanely - whether it be cows, chickens, or anything else. Living conditions ideally wouldn't be horrendous. However, I don't ignore the living conditions of the vast majority of animals that will be used for meat - it's pretty bad.

So I'm all for treating animals better as a whole, but don't agree that dogs magically should be treated differently. As others have stated, they aren't the most intelligent animals we eat.
 

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The dog meat trade is nothing. I spoke with a lady who spent time in China and Thailand and she said they regular sell kittens for consumption. She was feeling kind hearted and wanted to save one, so she told the guy running the market. Before she could even begin to protest, he picked it up, broke it's neck, and put it in a bag for her.
 

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I just watched a video in which a dog was stabbed in the heart to bleed out. Horrible way to die. What would be a humane way to kill a dog? I'm guessing with a blunt object?
 

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No. It is never okay to eat dog. I wouldn't eat cat or horse either.
You can find horse meat in grocery stores in Canada. It's mainly just in Quebec though, since horse meat is not uncommon in French food. However, outside Quebec you can find it occasionally at some higher end butcher shops in the big cities like Toronto.

BTW, in Canada it's perfectly legal to butcher dogs for food. Except I've never seen it for sale, I assume because there are no abbatoirs that deal with dogs, and no suppliers that humanely raise dogs for food either.