Is it normal for my taskbar to be slightly hidden until monitor warms up?

[JohnPaul]

I have had four A90F+ do this and have tried them on different computers, with different vid cards. Also, before this I had an Envision 985e that was off on the sides until warm. This one is stretched by a mm on top and a couple on the bottom until warm. I am tired of taking these things back, and aside from this, this monitor is perfect. Nice and straight, great colors, etc. What do you guys suggest? I don't know what to do since I don't want to buy online, and this is the only half way decent monitor at the local BB, CompUSA and the like. Does anyone know if any of these big stores sell the P95F+ is sold at any of these stores if indeed this isn't a normal monitor happening?

Thanks for any advice,
John-Paul

 

[dullard]

CRT monitors often take 20-30 minutes to warm up fully. In the initial period they have different picture output than when they are fully warm. Thus your experience isn't out of the ordinary. I assume that you have maximized your picture to fill up the entire viewable area when the monitor was warm (by using the controls on the monitor). Thus when the monitor is cold it may be displaying that taskbar, but it is stretched a bit and thus is being displayed in an area covered up by the plastic on the monitor. There is a reason the factory default settings don't fill up the whole glass. That is why if you get a 19" monitor it may say 18" viewable - since you need to keep the picture slightly smaller than it could be to make room for expansions when it isn't fully warm.

Try shrinking the image a few % and then come back tomorrow with your answer (it takes a while to cool the monitor down again).

 

[JohnPaul]

Yes, the picture is perfect aside from that. I just wanted to make sure that it's not something that brand new monitor shouldn't be doing. You're right about me having it adjusted to the outmost screen area though. Do all crts do this, or just some, and could it be due to the fact that I am only running a 300 watt power supply with two hds, two cd drives AXP etc etc.?

John-Paul

 

[dullard]

All CRT monitors that I have seen display something different when cold than when warm. I wouldn't think your experience is out of the ordinary. I don't think you are running your monitor off your computer's power supply. Years ago, people did that. But now monitors plug into a wall outlet. Thus the computer's power supply wouldn't have anything to do with your monitor. I think this is just a normal thing, and you either need to deal with it, or to not stretch out the picture quite so much.

 

[moonshinemadness]

i still plug my monitor into my psu...one less plug needs catering for!!

 

[Confused]

Originally posted by: moonshinemadness
i still plug my monitor into my psu...one less plug needs catering for!!

That will just be a straight pass-through, won't be drawing any power from the PSU



Confused

 

[wetcat007]

Similar thing happens to me on many CRT's I own, I just ignore it and it goes away, the monitors are on so much it only happens once a day so it's no big deal.

 

[AgaBoogaBoo]

Hmmm. I don't notice any of those symptoms. I have a Samtron 77V.

 

[firemoth12]

I have an Envision and it does that.

Its funny how you people are returning monitors, complaining etc because they display a little too big when its cold. Why??

Thats like saying you expect your cars heat to work right after you started it after a cold night...well sorry, live with the 10 minutes of torture from the screen being a millimeter too big.

I mean sure, ask a question, but returning it 4 times because of this??

 

[Wintermute76]

I haven't noticed anything on my Viewsonic G810. My SGI (Sony) GDM-20E21 does it a little bit, but it's ok after about 5 minutes.

 

[magomago]

Odd I have some old CTX PLV500 (ie cheap) and it doesn't do that. And my current Moniter, a NEC FE770 doesn't do that either

 

[dullard]

Originally posted by: magomago
Odd I have some old CTX PLV500 (ie cheap) and it doesn't do that. And my current Moniter, a NEC FE770 doesn't do that either

It is just one of many possible problems while the monitor is cold. It might be darker, stretched, a bit fuzzier, a bit distorted (ie the vertical or horizontal lines aren't perfectly straight), etc. Generally all monitors have some minor differences in their display. The higher quality monitors generally have more work put in them to minimize the problems, but they can never be 100% eliminated.

 

[Snooper]

Dullard,

The reason that they have two different measurements on it is due to Federal law. In the computer world (and TVs in the "old" days), the CRT was measureed from the OUTSIDE edge of the CRT diaganally across to the ther OUTSIDE edge. Several years ago, the FCC passed a rule that stated that all TVs sold in the US must have the viewable size listed, not just the outside measurements. The viewable size is the same diaganal measurement, but it only goes to inside corner of the screen where the phosphers (SP) stop. Not the masked region of the screen, not the physical outside dimensions. This is the largest diagonal line the monitor can physically display. Period.

Computer monitors didn't fall under this same umbrella, so they continued to use the outside edge dimension as it is the largest dimension and we all know how marketing people think. Some manufacturers have started to put the viewable dimension on the box as well, but I don't know if that is because they are trying to play nice or if it is a new law I am not familiar with. Either way, the viewable size is the maximum size the monitor can display.

As for the warm up issues, that seems like a very long warm up time to me! Most monitors I have seen have a warm up time measured in seconds before the image stabilizes. Where the image is located on the screen is directly controlled by the yokes magnetic fields. The control circuit should be able to control the voltage to the yoke well enough after only a few seconds to keep your image centered and on target. Heck, it has to hit three seperate guns one on top of the other to get the convergence right (aka: one white point instead of red, green and blue points next to each other). I've never noticed this type of behavior on any of my Sony monitors.