Is it me or does Islam have a large amount of extremists?

Terzo

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Governments across Europe must do more to safeguard freedom of speech for Muslim reformers who face threats from extremists, a think tank has warned.
The UK-based Centre for Social Cohesion highlighted the cases of 27 writers, including Sir Salman Rushdie, activists, politicians and artists.
The centre said they had suffered violence and intimidation for criticising Islam or seeking reform.
It said governments had a duty to ensure free speech for all citizens.
The report - Victims of Intimidation: Freedom of Speech within Europe's Muslim Communities - said official failure to offer victims the protection they needed had left "significant numbers" of Muslims unable to express themselves.

It said this also created the impression that more Muslims were opposed to free speech than was actually the case.
The centre called for European governments to "promote greater religious and social harmony by demonstrating that they see Muslims and those of Muslim background as complete citizens, neither restricted in their freedoms nor unduly permitted to issue threats against others".
Sir Salman was among the cases highlighted.
The Booker Prize-winner lived in hiding for nine years after Iran's late Ayatollah Khomeini imposed a fatwa, or death threat, on him in 1989 after the publication of his novel The Satanic Verses.

The ayatollah said the book was "blasphemous to Islam".
The report also considered the case of Maryam Namazie, who received threats after setting up the Council of Ex-Muslims in Britain, and Cardiff-based humanist writer Anwar Shaikh, the subject of a fatwa demanding his hanging.
It also featured the case of pop singer Deepika "Deeyah" Thathaal, a Norwegian pop star of Afghan and Pakistini origin, who said she had been threatened, spat at and attacked with pepper spray after a video showed her removing a burka, the Islamic veil, to reveal a bikini.
And Syrian-born Danish MP Naser Khader, who founded the organisation Democratic Muslims in the wake of the Prophet Muhammad cartoon row, lives under 24-hour police protection, said the think tank's report.

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Douglas Murray, director of the Centre for Social Cohesion and co-author of the report, said Muslims found it increasingly difficult" to criticise elements of their faith or culture without fear of reprisal.
In a free society, no belief or set of values should remain beyond open criticism," he said.
To grant a belief system amnesty from discussion concedes that intimidation and violence can succeed.
Unless Muslims are allowed to discuss their religion without fear of attack there can be no chance of reform or genuine freedom of conscience within Islam."

I try to be "religiously tolerant" and crap like that, but it seems to me that Islam has a lot more extremists than other religions. I know the US isn't perfect, but it these asshole zealots seem to think that if you don't agree with them then you have no right to life.

I just find myself really annoyed by these pretentious assholes who are in actuality religious thugs. Just thinking about it puts me at a loss for words.

Does anyone agree or am I out in the cold?

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Fenixgoon

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extremists always speak the loudest.. doesn't matter whether they're political, environmental, or religious
 

0roo0roo

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Originally posted by: AccruedExpenditure
1 billion Muslims.
50-100k extremists
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not even close to a good estimate. the number that share pretty heinous views but don't bomb anyone is pretty large. but it makes for a much larger pool from which extremists which take the last step come from. there are hardly any "liberal" muslims. moderate is a stretch even
 

ConstipatedVigilante

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The Muslim world tends to have a much more medieval way of thinking about society than the Western world. I think it partly stems from education - any time a theocracy is established, ignorance is held in favor of any beliefs that would challenge your own. As a result, many muslims are indoctrinated to hate Western culture without reason. Let the flames commence.
 

ed21x

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i see dumb people from all groups, but the press has the ability to report (or selectively mention the religion of the culprit) on one specific group the most in order to indoctrinate its people. They do this in China/Europe all the time. Hopefully it's not happening here.