Is it legal...

[yh125d]

For cops to sit parked on private property looking for speeders? I ask because there is a new cop in town who has been parking on two of my fathers properties waiting for someone to pass in front of him. He has also been seen parked in driveways waiting. Common sense tells me that this is illegal, but common sense doesn't necessarily mean anything these days


Anyone have a clue?

 

[daniel1113]

I'd imagine it is perfectly legal until asked by the property owner to leave.

 

[Aimster]

its your property if u dont like him tell him to get off. but why be an asshole to a cop? They are the ones that u call when u need help.

 

[daniel1113]

Originally posted by: Aimster
its your property if u dont like him tell him to get off. but why be an asshole to a cop? They are the ones that u call when u need help.

Asking him to leave is not "being an asshole".

 

[Aimster]

Originally posted by: daniel1113

Originally posted by: Aimster
its your property if u dont like him tell him to get off. but why be an asshole to a cop? They are the ones that u call when u need help.

Asking him to leave is not "being an asshole".

why ask him to leave? It doesn't hurt him. He doesn't even live there by the sound of it.

 

[her209]

I'd call the cops on him. Who knows what he'll do if you approach him.

 

[daniel1113]

Originally posted by: Aimster

Originally posted by: daniel1113

Originally posted by: Aimster
its your property if u dont like him tell him to get off. but why be an asshole to a cop? They are the ones that u call when u need help.

Asking him to leave is not "being an asshole".

why ask him to leave? It doesn't hurt him. He doesn't even live there by the sound of it.

He just asked the question. He didn't say he wanted him to leave.

 

[Red Squirrel]

Technically so many feet from the sidewalk/road belong to the city, (which I find retarded but that's how it is) I'm not sure if that counts for the driveway too or just the lawn, but if it counts for the driveway, then technically you probably can't do anything about it.

That's kinda a prick move for a cop to do that though, at least, they should knock at the door and ask, or park sideways on the side in front of the property rather then in the driveway.

Don't think I've ever seen them do that here.

 

[txrandom]

You should go and talk to him. Basically tell him he can stay on your property if you get immunity from traffic violations without directly saying that.

 

[daniel1113]

Originally posted by: txrandom
You should go and talk to him. Basically tell him he can stay on your property if you get immunity from traffic violations without directly saying that.

Whenever I try that, I always end up meeting the one honest cop on the force

 

[BoomerD]

Every state/local government has laws that govern this.
Here in Kahleeforneeya, the laws are all over the place.
In SOME cities, if the property is private with public access, (parking lots) it's perfectly legal for them to sit there and run speed traps.

In OTHER cities, even parking lots are off-limits for speed traps.

Still other cities permit the cops to park in your driveway and run radar...unless/until the property owner asks/tells them to get off the property...at which time they have to leave. IIRC, San Jose is one of these. (Thank you Mr. Roadshow...)

Of course, city, county, and even state ordinances are subject to change.

Personally, I think it sux that they do that. Private property is just that...PRIVATE...and not subject to unauthorized use by the police.

 

[olds]

Originally posted by: RedSquirrel
Technically so many feet from the sidewalk/road belong to the city, (which I find retarded but that's how it is) ...

It's called "Right Of Way".

 

[Demo24]

Pretty sure in my area they can't be watching for speeders on private property. It's rare anyway.

 

[yh125d]

In both of the properties mentioned, they are way beyond the city right of way. One, is the concrete slab of an old warehouse that has burned, and he parks *on* the slab. The other is at a Dollar General store my father owns, and he likes to park around the corner (i.e., separate from the parking lot) right next to the loading dock.

The driveway I've seen him at is a long driveway leadig up to the house, with a row of cedar trees along one side, which makes him invisible til you pass by

 

[LTC8K6]

He is the same as anyone else. If I can't park on your property, neither can he. He is trespassing.

 

[Auggie]

At worst, the police officer is a visible presence around your (father's) property, either enforcing speed limits, or hopefully making a lasting impression on drivers that will remember where they've seen police cruisers sitting.

I see this only as a positive thing. Hell, I'd go out and ask the guy if he wanted some chips or a soda while he was doing his job, and thank him/her while I was out there.

Edit: Can anybody point out some realistically negative things about a police officer monitoring your immediate surroundings from your property?

 

[GundamW]

Originally posted by: Auggie

Edit: Can anybody point out some realistically negative things about a police officer monitoring your immediate surroundings from your property?

Possibly can't smoke weed outside the front porch, can't order an "escort", can't beat your wife/kid/mom/dad/sis/gf/aunt/yourself, can't fire guns/rocket/firework in the backyard, can't peep on your neighbor's hot wife/gf/sis/aunt/mom, can't build a meth lab in the garage, ....
you know, the usual....

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: daniel1113
I'd imagine it is perfectly legal until asked by the property owner to leave.

This is the correct answer.

In addition, it is perfectly legal for the property owner to ask the cop to leave, nor is it being an asshole.

IMO, it would depend on my street. If speeders were a legitimate problem on a residential street, then I'd let the cop stay. OTOH, if this were a busy thoroughfare with an artificial low speed limit and the cop was just setting a speed trap, I'd ask him to leave.

 

[2Xtreme21]

Cops sit in private driveways all through our housing plan. Usually I'm big on personal liberties and authority restraint, but I see nothing but good from this. People don't fly through stop signs at 45mph narrowly missing children playing anymore.

 

[RichardE]

Originally posted by: 2Xtreme21
Cops sit in private driveways all through our housing plan. Usually I'm big on personal liberties and authority restraint, but I see nothing but good from this. People don't fly through stop signs at 45mph narrowly missing children playing anymore.

http://www.ktnv.com/Global/story.asp?S=9836797

You are wrong sadly

 

[her209]

Originally posted by: 2Xtreme21
Cops sit in private driveways all through our housing plan. Usually I'm big on personal liberties and authority restraint, but I see nothing but good from this. People don't fly through stop signs at 45mph narrowly missing children playing anymore.

Its probably more effective to put in dips and/or speed bumps.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: 2Xtreme21
Cops sit in private driveways all through our housing plan. Usually I'm big on personal liberties and authority restraint, but I see nothing but good from this. People don't fly through stop signs at 45mph narrowly missing children playing anymore.

Its probably more effective to put in dips and/or speed bumps.

Dips and speed humps limit and/or slow down access by emergency vehicles.

 

[JEDIYoda]

Originally posted by: yh125d
For cops to sit parked on private property looking for speeders? I ask because there is a new cop in town who has been parking on two of my fathers properties waiting for someone to pass in front of him. He has also been seen parked in driveways waiting. Common sense tells me that this is illegal, but common sense doesn't necessarily mean anything these days


Anyone have a clue?

Just put up No Trespassing sings!! Private property!! Anyone caught trespassing will be shot!!

 

[her209]

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: 2Xtreme21
Cops sit in private driveways all through our housing plan. Usually I'm big on personal liberties and authority restraint, but I see nothing but good from this. People don't fly through stop signs at 45mph narrowly missing children playing anymore.

Its probably more effective to put in dips and/or speed bumps.

Dips and speed humps limit and/or slow down access by emergency vehicles.

They slow down on approaching an intersection anyways.

 

[tasmanian]

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: 2Xtreme21
Cops sit in private driveways all through our housing plan. Usually I'm big on personal liberties and authority restraint, but I see nothing but good from this. People don't fly through stop signs at 45mph narrowly missing children playing anymore.

Its probably more effective to put in dips and/or speed bumps.

Dips and speed humps limit and/or slow down access by emergency vehicles.

They slow down on approaching an intersection anyways.

Yeah but how fast do you go over the bumps? 10 mph is how fast I go. With a 25 or 30 mph speed limit it really slows you down.