Is it legal to share songs from cds you actually own?

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Originally posted by: LordJezo
Can they sue you for that too?

Explain how giving your friends copies of music that they did not purchase is not stealing from the artist.

It is the same thing. It is illegal.
 

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Originally posted by: DevilsAdvocate
Originally posted by: LordJezo
Can they sue you for that too?

Explain how giving your friends copies of music that they did not purchase is not stealing from the artist.

It is the same thing. It is illegal.

So why is it legal to use a tape deck to do the same thing?
 

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Originally posted by: LordJezo
Originally posted by: DevilsAdvocate
Originally posted by: LordJezo Can they sue you for that too?
Explain how giving your friends copies of music that they did not purchase is not stealing from the artist. It is the same thing. It is illegal.
So why is it legal to use a tape deck to do the same thing?

Theoretically it isn't any different. In practice though, tapes degrade, and a copy of a copy of a copy isn't worth a damn so the MPAA isn't worried.

-MC
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: PipBoy
At this point I think it's illegal for your friend to even hear a song from your cd.
I'm waiting for the time when listening to music in any way but closed headphones becomes illegal.

Humming a copyrighted song, I think, is already illegal ;)
 
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Originally posted by: PipBoy
At this point I think it's illegal for your friend to even hear a song from your cd.

Well, last I heard they were trying to do something so they could collect royalties on used CD's that were sold. Hopefully it will go over like a lead balloon.
 

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Originally posted by: LordJezo
Originally posted by: kranky
Originally posted by: LordJezo
So why is it legal to use a tape deck to do the same thing?

It's not.

Yeah it is.. I am sure of it.

It's only legal if you don't distribute it or sell it. It's legal to record songs off the radio because of how low the quality is.

 
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Originally posted by: LordJezo
Originally posted by: kranky
Originally posted by: LordJezo So why is it legal to use a tape deck to do the same thing?
It's not.
Yeah it is.. I am sure of it. AHRA law or something.

Is it for your personal use? Maybe it is... I'm not quite sure.

However, giving a tape to your friends would definitely be illegal, as it would be a sale or distribution.
 

Vic

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It is NOT legal to give your friends audio cassette tape copies of music you might legally own.
I don't know where you heard that information but it is not true. In fact, the recording industry initially balked at distributing in cassette tapes for that very reason, and tried to push non-recordable 8 track tapes on consumers <edit> which didn't fly mainly because you could not fast forward through parts of a song -- songs always had to start from the beginning -- otherwise the sound quality of 8 tracks was better than cassettes but not as good as vinyl </edit>.
After more than a decade of selling easily recordable cassette tapes (and complaining the whole time about exactly the piracy that you still think is legal), the recording industry moved to high-fidelity compact discs in the late '80s, believing that CD recording technology would never become cheap enough for the general public to use. Of course, that notion was destroyed in the late '90s (I bought my first CD burner in early '98, it was 4x, took almost an hour to burn a CD, burned as many coasters as good CDs and blanks cost more than a buck each, and cost $400 bucks), so the whole media content industry made the decision to switch to DVDs (or Super Audio discs). For now obvious reasons, that decision is now on hold and the industry is in turmoil.
 

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Originally posted by: Kaervak
It's legal to record songs off the radio because of how low the quality is.
That's not legal either.
Pressure by the recording industry on the radio stations on this very issue is the reason why:
- there are no more full album concept albums (like Rush's 2112 or Pink Floyd's Animals)
- radio stations no longer play entire albums all at once (with no commercial interruption in the old days)
- the DJ talks during the first few seconds the song is playing